The golovkin/ward paradox

[Madison Boxing]

What about the guy who doesn't care if he is conpetitive fights or not, lining up mismatch after mismatch intent on sticking around an entire overmatched division busking for a pay day versus a guy who gave his belt to him already.

Oh I see you're comparing GGG to the guy who will genuinely fight anyone and move up weight to achieve greatness and establish legacy and a p4p no.1 spot in the process also.

Lol @ the guy who takes punched to please his fans. Let's see how much he cares for his fans when he's in a wheelchair with Parkinson's unable to fully enjoy the spoils of his victories like the likes of Floyd and Ward who don't take unnecessary shots.

he didnt 'move up in weight' deliberately to chase greatness lol. he said it himself he jsut cant make 168 anymore.

[Elroy The Great]

1 guy proved himself and has a logical fan base. the other guy is the opposite.

[Madison Boxing]

1 guy proved himself and has a logical fan base. the other guy is the opposite.

hows it logical for people for his fans to rate him p4p number 1 having not fought a fighter with a pulse in 5 years?

[Robbie Barrett]

he didnt 'move up in weight' deliberately to chase greatness lol. he said it himself he jsut cant make 168 anymore.

Yes he can't make it NOW, he didn't say he couldn't make it THEN. Spin, spin, spin that's all you Golovkin bandwagon fans do. Golovkin and his resume just doesn't stand up to where you guys place him.

[Robbie Barrett]

hows it logical for people for his fans to rate him p4p number 1 having not fought a fighter with a pulse in 5 years?

Golovkin is top 3 and he's never fought anyone with a pulse.

[Elroy The Great]

hows it logical for people for his fans to rate him p4p number 1 having not fought a fighter with a pulse in 5 years?

the fact that 3g is even mentioned in a p4p convo is ridiculous.

[Jewish-Reptile]

he didnt 'move up in weight' deliberately to chase greatness lol. he said it himself he jsut cant make 168 anymore.

He struggled his entire time there, it found it impossible after the legal troubles he had freeing himself from his contract and promoter he had become disillusioned with which cost himself 19 months of his career, although I'll say three years with you being a GGG fan boy as I know how much you guys like to distort the truth.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Golovkin is top 3 and he's never fought anyone with a pulse.

Don't be too harsh he had a career defining fight versus Lemiuex and beat a welter at Middle. I feel he's top ten for the manner in which he has won against guys who've never been handled the way they have until he has destroyed them, I'd say he's top 5-6 if guys like Frampton are in there on the back of competitive fights versus guys of the stature of Cruz and Quigg.

He's behind the likes of Rigo and Crawford imo.

[Lester Tutor]

these threads make Golovkin fans ATGs!

[ShamrockXpress]

I do think it's funny that the people saying Golovkin should move up to 'chase greatness' would be the same people who would accuse him of running from Jacobs etc if he did.

Why is it wrong for him to wait for canelo? GGG is a natural middle who doesn't struggle to make weight and has a p4p recognised fighter who is also the biggest draw in the sport moving into his division. Canelo has only fought as a Jr middle once in 3 years, so why is it out of the question for GGG to want to fight the lineal/ring champion in his division?

Moving up to chase greatness? Like when ward drained the lineal light heavyweight champion instead of moving up to chase greatness? Or do you mean when he could no longer make weight and due to promotional issues (stevenson) and the fact he won't leave America (brahmer/cleverly) the only money fight and chance for a title was Kov. I think that HBO told Ward that they wouldn't accept any more c level fighters and if he wanted the money he thinks he deserves the Krusher was the only option.

It mightnt sound it but I'm actually a massive admirer of Ward, I remember falling out with my mates when I was cheering for him at 5am and he was shutting frock out. I don't like his style but I appreciate he's next level gifted (mayweather, rigo) but I do think there is a massive double standard and maybe even some racial bias on here.