Comments Thread For: Golovkin, Jacobs Running Out of Time - Purse Bid Looms

[hhs661]

man i don't headbutt it, other stuff is personal

Lol classic. You're cool

[Kigali]

no surprise daggum in here playing captain save a GG

[j0zef]

Good point in your 1st paragraph. NOW you should get why Jacobs is asking for what he is.

GGG wants to be undisputed world champ. while his fans already say he is, the FACT is he got the WBA belt in the boardroom not the ring. Beating Jacobs has more intrinsic value-using your words-then actual value. So Jacobs is trying to leverage that, as would any other fighter in his position.

Dude, nobody in the world takes WBA interim or 'regular' champions seriously. We all want Jacobs/Golovkin, but nobody on this forum treats it as any sort of 'true WBA champion' matchup.

When Golovkin was the challenger to Sturm's super WBA, he didn't make a fuss about 'pay me more'. When he was the challenger to Canelo's/Cotto's WBC, he didn't talk about 'pay me more'. He followed the rules that are clearly laid out.

Danny Jacobs is getting paid well for a shot at 3 world titles. What the hell is there to complain about? Golovkin's risking everything for no reward, AND he needs to overpay opponents? For what? So 20 trolls on NSB can say "well we knew Jacobs' chin was glass anyway so add another one to the tomato can collection"?

[The Big Dunn]

Dude, nobody in the world takes WBA interim or 'regular' champions seriously. We all want Jacobs/Golovkin, but nobody on this forum treats it as any sort of 'true WBA champion' matchup.

When Golovkin was the challenger to Sturm's super WBA, he didn't make a fuss about 'pay me more'. When he was the challenger to Canelo's/Cotto's WBC, he didn't talk about 'pay me more'. He followed the rules that are clearly laid out.

Danny Jacobs is getting paid well for a shot at 3 world titles. What the hell is there to complain about? Golovkin's risking everything for no reward, AND he needs to overpay opponents? For what? So 20 trolls on NSB can say "well we knew Jacobs' chin was glass anyway so add another one to the tomato can collection"?

you have no idea what happened for the strum/GGG negotiations. come on man. I am not saying he did anyhting, but please stop putting him up on a pedestal just because you are a fan.

Again, his team was willing to overpay for BJS. they set the market.

[kafkod]

I never said he was ducking. Please dude, stop whining. The problem is you compare him to much stronger a sides when he doesn't generate enough.

Again, K2 offered Saunders $3 mil despite GGG not being "box office". They set the market value. The only difference is how much they will lose giiving Jacobs what he wants as comoared to what they would have lost if Saunders had fought GGG,.

Now I know you love GGG, but Jacobs and his team are not going to be concerned with how much money K2 loses.



Good point in your 1st paragraph. NOW you should get why Jacobs is asking for what he is.

GGG wants to be undisputed world champ. while his fans already say he is, the FACT is he got the WBA belt in the boardroom not the ring. Beating Jacobs has more intrinsic value-using your words-then actual value. So Jacobs is trying to leverage that, as would any other fighter in his position.

Golovkin won his WBA belt in the ring and he was upgraded to super champ after Geale was stripped for refusing to fight him. He is universally recognised as the WBA MW champion already. He doesn't need to beat Jacobs to earn that recognition.

[j0zef]

you have no idea what happened for the strum/GGG negotiations. come on man. I am not saying he did anyhting, but please stop putting him up on a pedestal just because you are a fan.

Again, his team was willing to overpay for BJS. they set the market.

The market is for the championship belt, not the fighter.

Golovkin wants the belt, he doesn't give a **** ass who holds it. If Jacobs held the WBO, he'd get 3M. If Rubio came back and won the WBO, he'd get 3M. If your long lost cousin on your mother's side held the WBO, he'd also get the 3M.

I'm not sure why you're arguing over this. Everybody knows this - especially Jacobs' and Saunder's management.

[MDPopescu]

The market is for the championship belt, not the fighter.

Golovkin wants the belt, he doesn't give a **** ass who holds it. If Jacobs held the WBO, he'd get 3M. If Rubio came back and won the WBO, he'd get 3M. If your long lost cousin on your mother's side held the WBO, he'd also get the 3M.

I'm not sure why you're arguing over this. Everybody knows this - especially Jacobs' and Saunder's management.

Those $3 million were meant for Saunders, but in a fight to take place in the U.K. (most likely) -- which is something different in terms of ticket sales...

As for Saunders: I remember that he was 23 of age when he KOd Jarrod Fletcher in the second round... The same Jarrod Fletcher whom Jacobs beat (two years later) in order to get that vacant WBA "regular" belt...

[kafkod]

Dude, nobody in the world takes WBA interim or 'regular' champions seriously. We all want Jacobs/Golovkin, but nobody on this forum treats it as any sort of 'true WBA champion' matchup.

When Golovkin was the challenger to Sturm's super WBA, he didn't make a fuss about 'pay me more'. When he was the challenger to Canelo's/Cotto's WBC, he didn't talk about 'pay me more'. He followed the rules that are clearly laid out.

Danny Jacobs is getting paid well for a shot at 3 world titles. What the hell is there to complain about? Golovkin's risking everything for no reward, AND he needs to overpay opponents? For what? So 20 trolls on NSB can say "well we knew Jacobs' chin was glass anyway so add another one to the tomato can collection"?

you have no idea what happened for the strum/GGG negotiations. come on man. I am not saying he did anyhting, but please stop putting him up on a pedestal just because you are a fan.

Again, his team was willing to overpay for BJS. they set the market.

The market is for the championship belt, not the fighter.

Golovkin wants the belt, he doesn't give a **** ass who holds it. If Jacobs held the WBO, he'd get 3M. If Rubio came back and won the WBO, he'd get 3M. If your long lost cousin on your mother's side held the WBO, he'd also get the 3M.

I'm not sure why you're arguing over this. Everybody knows this - especially Jacobs' and Saunder's management.

Considering the money GGG earned fighting Brook in the UK, BJS would be well worth his $3 million, and the rest!

[BattlingNelson]

Please answer my questions.

No, I already stated rules involving competition should not be changed. Glove size would fall under that umbrella.

I am not advocating what you posted here and I stated this specifically so i can't understand why you are confused and why you will not answer the questions I asked.

It feels like your real issue is GGG making a concession to get the fight made. I get that since you are a GGG fan. Sometimes you have to give a little to get what you want. I don't want to see another GGG v bum fight. I also want to see MW cleaned up.

I think this is a unique case and if the WBA violates its own rules for splits/compensation to get this fight made then I think its ok. Doesn't mean they should do it everytime because other situations will not be like this.

Dude. You are saying that the governing body can change a pursesplit. After what criteria? Random? After how you feel? After nationality, or what?

Its complete bs.

Consider this. If you have this great fighter. The cashcow of his generation. Lets call him Lloyd. He fights a random guy called lets say Gaydana. Gaygana surprises everyone, and gives the great Lloyd all sorts of problems in a losing effort.

Public demand for a return is high. Lloyd isn't interested, but Gaydana gets installed as mando.

At first the teams make volontary negotiations, but cannot agree to anything because Lloyd wants a 95/5 split. The governing body then goes in and dictates that the pursesplit will not be the usual 70/30 but 50/50 because Gaidana did so well the first time or maybe just because Gaidana's team asked for it or maybe just because because.

How about that?

[r1onnie2]

he's almost certainly getting better than 70-30 right now given how generous k2 has been with ggg opponents but the problem is he's not getting the more than 3 million that he's demanding. obv its impossible to give him that much unless ggg takes a huge cut and its a 50-50 split at best for ggg. thats not very reasonable to expect sicne jacobs isn't even close to ggg's popularity but i guess ggg haters expect him to do that. i guess ggg didn't want to fight is what they say as they ignore how jacobs wanted crazy money and they expected k2 to lose millions since their hero haymon does it all the time.

I agree that it's about the amount of money Jacobs want but going to that purse bid isn't going to get him there. Honestly if it goes to purse bid I believe Jacobs will walkaway from the fight saying the money isn't enough.