Why do some posters on boxing forums..

[SterlingStained]

I get this is what you and other NSB bigots like to believe but it isn't the case.

i believe in reality and i believe in charles darwin. i also believe greatly in human nature despite your best attempts to dishonestly dance around this topic.

keep frontin to support your lies.


facts and reality are on my side, not your colin kaepernick philosophy of everything not black is bad and not down with the "cause."

i know your act and i can see it coming from a mile a way.



you aint foolin me..

[Madison Boxing]

because automatically on this site, any european fighter is seen as a stiff, basic, limited plodder whos going to get schooled as soon as they fight someone slick. there fighting style and record is considered irrelevant

[Larry the boss]

What Ward fans are slamming Kovalev?? ever fan i see post say this is for p4p supremacy

[jmrf4435]

fear, im serious. Envy and fear, people said the same about Pirog before he KO'd jacobs

[Jewish-Reptile]

Compare Kovalev to Pavlik & Froch? During the build up to Bhop i routinely read Kovalev was just another Pavlik! Now Ward is happening i keep reading he's not even as good as Froch! Froch has been routinely out-boxed (I can only imagine what Kovalev would do to the likes of Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Groves, Magee.. All men who have made Carl earn his pay!) & is as flat footed as they come! Even ponder-some! Ward beat Froch at 168 half a decade ago! You think this is going to be a replica? What are you on? LOL

Pavlik got torn up by Martinez & Bhop & was about as disciplined a human being as Fury & Cooney! If Kovalev is anything he is a bigger/better punching & stronger chinned Sergio Martinez! Don't get me wrong, no shame in being compared to Froch & Martinez (great champions) but they are ID fighters & neither have the skill-set or natural assets of Kovalev!

I mean do some of you people even know that Dale Westerman bashed Froch around? I love Carl but he's not s good as Kovalev. He has immense heart & a champions will to win but he's Ricky Hatton with a nose job! You are comparing him because he's white! Admit it some of you? You kid yourselves into thinking that Kovalev plays & fits into your long held stiff/upright euro type fighter cliche (some of you people need to drop these long held stereo-types because Lomachenko, Kovalev, Usyk, Calzaghe, Pirog & even Gololvkin have far more to there game! You'll see...AGAIN! )

Combine Tszyu & Martinez & you get Kovalev! You don't get Froch or Pavlik!

Carl Froch is twice the fighter Ricky Hatton was. I'm not even a huge Froch fan but his boxing skill is under rated, he has an iron jaw and engine unmatched in boxing. Take nothing from that man.

As for Kovalev would walk through Kessler and Andre Dirrell I don't see that. Who has Kovalev defeated to suggest he'd overcome with relative ease against these guys, prime Kessler would match him toe to toe, no way could Kovalev walk forward without coming in behind his jab and actually working for openings.

Chilemba showed the blue print of how to deal with this guy and Ward will perfect it.

[Jewish-Reptile]

What Ward fans are slamming Kovalev?? ever fan i see post say this is for p4p supremacy

No one. GGG fans like to imagine Ward fans trash Kovalev. These guys have nothing but the upmost respect from boxing fans with the exception of GGG fan boys who for a certain reason are desperate for Ward to lose.

[NaijaD]

What about all the Ward fans that think Kovalev is better than Golovkin?

You don't mention those fans though do you?

Only a very small minority think Froch is better, why you're taking their word as gospel is puzzling to me. Everyone thinks this is a fight for P4P supremacy so how can Kovalev be a bum if that's the case

That's like me asking why do Golovkin fans think he's a harder puncher than Julian Jackson when it was clearly only a moronic minority that thought this.

You're up there with over dramatic threads. Tyrone Biggums does not represent every black poster on this site, he's not even black you condescending tosser.

[Larry the boss]

No one. GGG fans like to imagine Ward fans trash Kovalev. These guys have nothing but the upmost respect from boxing fans with the exception of GGG fan boys who for a certain reason are desperate for Ward to lose.

I dont get why GGG fans are so threatened by this fight..all they do is complain

[Jewish-Reptile]

I dont get why GGG fans are so threatened by this fight..all they do is complain

I've got them worked out. They think if Ward loses to Kovalev he'll never be an ATG, they are also threatened by the p4p rankings. Coupled with the fact GGG's career defining fight according to them is Lemieux and Stevens Ward will have Kovalev as his, the guy steam rollering every man and his dog.

I think they know the inevitability of the winner facing GGG down the line too really has them feeling insecure Ward and GGG could in fact happen above 164 which was really their only ray of light in believing GGG could win the fight. When it is announced at 172 yeh exodus from this forum will be mind blowing they won't even hang around for the fight itself without coming back with alt accounts.

[HEND]

Wich are????
Direll, Pascal and Kessler?

Direll could have won their fight with non brit judges.

Kessler beat him the first fight.

And he had a tough night with Jean Pascal.



Kova's best wins are Pascal, Cleverly and B HOP.

Far from being worst and unlike Froch, he beat them easely.

That's what make Kova more impressive than Froch as a fighter, Kova would whoop Carl big time, break his nose and make his pretty girlfriend cry.

nah I doN't agree with this, you read too much into beatig lower level opponents more impressively than how the other defeated higher level ones.

Froch defeated a prime version of Pascal, Kovalev defeated a past prime. Dirrell was a controversial and hard fight for Froch but also a better opponent than Cleverly and the versions of Pascal and B-Hop who Kovalev has beaten.

Kessler is also better than any of those wins. Also Froch's Bute win was nice, since Bute was regarded as some monster by some back then... lol

I didn't say with a word that Froch wo all his fights easly I said nobody should state that Kovalev s the better fighter until he didn't beat the level of opponents Froch beat, even if Froch beat them hardly sometimes.

I'd put them about the same level btw just different styles, different strengths, different weightclasses.

Fighters who yet have to lose their "0" often looks more untouchable and better than more proven fighters who are already retired or they are at the end of their career cause since they usually(not always) faced top level opponents more times, their weaknesses and flaws more known and more exposed to the public than the fighters' with a clean sheets who usually are less proven yet.
When it will be all said and done I think all time Kovalev will be rated somewhere where Froch is rated it's just that since he didn't lose yet against the level of opponents he fought (which is not bad at all but also not elite) Kovalev's flaws aren't that exposed to the public.

There are exceptions though, the very best of fighters.



E.g: We know what were RJJ's weaknesses already but nobody would seriously put Kovalev ahead of him cause RJJ in his prime was arguably the best ever...

or with "0" fighters we all know that Mayweather didn't keep that 0 cause he didn't prove himself but because he was a truly great fighter who could keep that 0 with proving himself against some of the bests and we still don't know (and probably never will) his main flaws cause there weren't any significant.


of course I ca be wrong and Kovalev can go on being an ATG but I just doubt he has that amount of talent to be honest.