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  • HEND
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    #11
    Froch was proven against more serous opponents before the Ward fight than Kovalev

    Can't see why the comparison can't be valid

    Kovalev fans who think that based on his achievements Kovalev is a clearly higher tier fighter than Froch are delusional.

    Just because one of them KOs more people and seems to be technically more textbook doesn't mean that he is actually better.

    Froch is a proven fighter, with a great career. Froch's 3 best wins are probably better than any wins of Kovalev.
    That's nt a knock on Kovalev, don't get me wrong, but it's true

    Stylistically they are different, sure, but in level I'm not so sure that they are far fro each other.

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    • BillyBoxing
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      #12
      Originally posted by HEND
      Froch was proven against more serous opponents before the Ward fight than Kovalev

      Can't see why the comparison can't be valid

      Kovalev fans who think that based on his achievements Kovalev is a clearly higher tier fighter than Froch are delusional.

      Just because one of them KOs more people and seems to be technically more textbook doesn't mean that he is actually better.

      Froch is a proven fighter, with a great career. Froch's 3 best wins are probably better than any wins of Kovalev.
      That's nt a knock on Kovalev, don't get me wrong, but it's true

      Stylistically they are different, sure, but in level I'm not so sure that they are far fro each other.
      Wich are????
      Direll, Pascal and Kessler?

      Direll could have won their fight with non brit judges.

      Kessler beat him the first fight.

      And he had a tough night with Jean Pascal.



      Kova's best wins are Pascal, Cleverly and B HOP.

      Far from being worst and unlike Froch, he beat them easely.


      That's what make Kova more impressive than Froch as a fighter, Kova would whoop Carl big time, break his nose and make his pretty girlfriend cry.

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      • BillyBoxing
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        #13
        Originally posted by HEND
        Froch was proven against more serous opponents before the Ward fight than Kovalev

        Can't see why the comparison can't be valid

        Kovalev fans who think that based on his achievements Kovalev is a clearly higher tier fighter than Froch are delusional.


        Just because one of them KOs more people and seems to be technically more textbook doesn't mean that he is actually better.

        Froch is a proven fighter, with a great career. Froch's 3 best wins are probably better than any wins of Kovalev.
        That's nt a knock on Kovalev, don't get me wrong, but it's true

        Stylistically they are different, sure, but in level I'm not so sure that they are far fro each other.
        There is the quality of the opponent, but also how you beat them.

        Froch beat Direll, good win, but a controversial SD...

        At the end of the day, they had an opponent in common, Pascal, but they fought him at a different moment.

        Was Pascal shot/old or more experienced/better when he fought Kova?
        I dunno, all I know is Kova did a lot better than Froch.

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        • Real King Kong
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          #14
          Originally posted by 1g5a22
          Compare Kovalev to Pavlik & Froch? During the build up to Bhop i routinely read Kovalev was just another Pavlik! Now Ward is happening i keep reading he's not even as good as Froch! Froch has been routinely out-boxed (I can only imagine what Kovalev would do to the likes of Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Groves, Magee.. All men who have made Carl earn his pay!) & is as flat footed as they come! Even ponder-some! Ward beat Froch at 168 half a decade ago! You think this is going to be a replica? What are you on? LOL

          Pavlik got torn up by Martinez & Bhop & was about as disciplined a human being as Fury & Cooney! If Kovalev is anything he is a bigger/better punching & stronger chinned Sergio Martinez! Don't get me wrong, no shame in being compared to Froch & Martinez (great champions) but they are ID fighters & neither have the skill-set or natural assets of Kovalev!

          I mean do some of you people even know that Dale Westerman bashed Froch around? I love Carl but he's not s good as Kovalev. He has immense heart & a champions will to win but he's Ricky Hatton with a nose job! You are comparing him because he's white! Admit it some of you? You kid yourselves into thinking that Kovalev plays & fits into your long held stiff/upright euro type fighter cliche (some of you people need to drop these long held stereo-types because Lomachenko, Kovalev, Usyk, Calzaghe, Pirog & even Gololvkin have far more to there game! You'll see...AGAIN! )

          Combine Tszyu & Martinez & you get Kovalev! You don't get Froch or Pavlik!
          I get sick of hearing about froch too...if he was on ggg's resume instead of ward's, he'd be a bum.

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          • SterlingStained
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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            This is ridiculous. A very small number of posters posted this and you are over exaggerating. Those that did weren't Ward fans. They were surely the Tyrone Biggums and other white posters posing as black posters.

            Ward has very few fans on NSB and his real fans wouldn't do this because saying that would diminish the win.

            Kovalev has always gotten fair respect even from people like me that don't like him.
            this is a blatant lie and blatant misrepresentation of facts.

            we know why you are doing this btw....

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            • SterlingStained
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              #16
              Originally posted by HEND
              Froch was proven against more serous opponents before the Ward fight than Kovalev

              Can't see why the comparison can't be valid

              Kovalev fans who think that based on his achievements Kovalev is a clearly higher tier fighter than Froch are delusional.

              Just because one of them KOs more people and seems to be technically more textbook doesn't mean that he is actually better.

              Froch is a proven fighter, with a great career. Froch's 3 best wins are probably better than any wins of Kovalev.
              That's nt a knock on Kovalev, don't get me wrong, but it's true

              Stylistically they are different, sure, but in level I'm not so sure that they are far fro each other.
              kovalev would wreck froch.

              losing to andre ward doesnt make you great.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #17
                Originally posted by Sterling Archer
                this is a blatant lie and blatant misrepresentation of facts.

                we know why you are doing this btw....

                Sorry Sterling, but its the truth. There are very few Ward fans on NSB. Hotep, tyrone biggums and a few others.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Sterling Archer
                  this is a blatant lie and blatant misrepresentation of facts.

                  we know why you are doing this btw....

                  No it isn't. the threads will back me up. Hotep, tyrone, few others. I post this everytime someone misrepresents what is really going on.

                  Most posters on NSB that are really Ward fans (and there are not many) respect Kov's skills and accomplishments and haven't demeaned them in any way.

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                  • SterlingStained
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    No it isn't. the threads will back me up. Hotep, tyrone, few others. I post this everytime someone misrepresents what is really going on.

                    Most posters on NSB that are really Ward fans (and there are not many) respect Kov's skills and accomplishments and haven't demeaned them in any way.
                    stop it.

                    just stop

                    floyd fans = ward fans = al haymon fans = b hopkin fans = spence fans = broner fans = wilder fans = stop fcking frontin we know how this fanbase thing works.


                    stop it.


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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sterling Archer
                      stop it.

                      just stop

                      floyd fans = ward fans = al haymon fans = b hopkin fans = spence fans = broner fans = wilder fans = stop fcking frontin we know how this fanbase thing works.


                      stop it.


                      I get this is what you and other NSB bigots like to believe but it isn't the case.

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