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"154-168 easy fora mi."
"155... this not respect to boxing...Lineal holder cannot tell B side bluff you know..juss.. 155...diss notta respect to boxing...jusss"
"Canelo...he too big...jusss..."
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"154..168..dissa easy fora mi..."
Translation : Cowardice.Comment
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Haha. And when did this MYTH exist? Whoever thought 160 pounders don't move up? Of course they do. There's only one division with fighters who don't move up- heavyweight. If there was super heavyweight, some of them would.
Golovkin to be a 5-division champion, would have to either drop down to 154 and then go to cruiser or go all the way to heavyweight. James Toney did this, but didn't become even 4 division because he failed a drug test and let's face it. He can barely talk these days. Jones went to heavyweight once, dropped back down and has only tarnished his legacy since then. And beating John Ruiz was only highly credible because he was so much smaller. Lots of heavyweights beat Ruiz because Ruiz was limited and one of the worst champions of all time. And let's face it. Who really wanted to see Jones face Ruiz? There were better fights out there for Jones at that time at smaller weights that would have been more competitive. Jones was going for novelty instead of facing the best. He got it, sure. But I don't think it impressed many people.
Many fighters move up these days because that is the trend. It's easier to become a champion because there are so many belts. However, a guy staying at one weight and especially cleaning out a division is highly respectable as well. If Golovkin stays at 160 from here on out, he has Jacobs, Saunders, Eubank, the Charlo twins who'll likely move up and Canelo. Of course, there will also be younger stars to rise up, too. There's no great tragedy in that. Besides, 168 doesn't look that promising and 175 has a lot of talent but we are talking about a 15 pound leap. My hat's off to Hopkins for doing that, but Hopkins is also taller and much more rangy than Golovkin.
In closing, any 5-division champion has made a great achievement, but those who clean out divisions achieve just as much IMO. These divisions are always changing. Even if a fighter rises up in a weak division, odds are that division will not remain weak. New talent will rise up and they are willing to stay there and take on the young guns, I see that as highly admirable. They've laid claim to the top of their divisions and are willing to uphold that by taking on the best their division has to offer. No shame in that.Comment
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You did use the fighters are more likely to move up in small divisions line. The fact that Paulie is a 2 division champ and Golovkin is a 1 division champ tells me Golovkin lacks courage.
Guys like Langford, Moore, Walker, Greb, Foster and Fitzsimmons took huge risk. I can't respect a guy who hides at 160 when Degale, Ramirez and Smith are right there.Comment
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I am a huge fan of both Loma and GGG you ***ing idiot. As usual you don't know what the hell you are talking about. You don't have a clue what GGG fans think. Only a complete moron that you are would think every GGG has the same opinion as every other GGG fan on every fighter. Everybody on this board already knows you hate GGG and think he is a coward.You have started daily threads saying so for quite a while now. Only a damn ****** starts the same thread over and over like a broken record. You think your opinion is so important and correct that you must jam it down everyone's throat. Unless you fight for a living, which I doubt, what right do you have to call GGG a coward? Your favorite fighter Lara has never moved up since he turned pro. He fights running away instead of coming forward like GGG. I don't think any boxer is a coward but your running man Lara certainly is closer to being a coward than GGG.Comment
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Pep did fight over 126, but very little. The majority of his career was at 126 and no one faults him for not becoming a 2-division champion which was much harder in those days.
And Mayweather won titles from 130-154- a 24 pound leap over 19 years.
Leonard won titles from 147-175(although he won 168 and 175 in one fight which was ridiculous and highly corrupt)- a 28 pound leap in 12-13 years.
Hearns won titles at 147-175- also a 28 pound leap in 13-14 years.
Duran won titles at 135-160- a 25 pound leap in 20+ years.
Jones won titles from 160-175, skipped cruiser and one at heavyweight which means he made a 15 pound leap over 7-8 years and then made a 20 pound leap for one fight and then dropped back down in weight.
Golovkin would have to make a leap from 160-heavyweight- over 40 pounds in ten years? Or let's say 15 if he can last that long. Ah, I don't see it happening and I don't blame him. With his style, it wouldn't make sense anyway. These other guys who moved up, outside of Duran who is one of the best of all time, had boxer styles and relied a lot more on movement. Golovkin's style works when he is the same size as his opponents. It's tailored for that. I'm sure he can do 168 and maybe 175 but with his style, he'd definitely be at a disadvantage, which may be what a lot of his haters are hoping for.Comment
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So well said, man. I started not to reply to this topic because I knew it was more Golovkin hate and is a daily thing and so many posters on here have addressed this and still, these threads keep popping up, but what the heck? it was a decent question. It's too bad it leads right back to the same hate-filled rhetoric instead of trying to make an actual point.Comment
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