Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Golovkin Fights Small Men, Ward Spanks His Ass!

[Bronx2245]

Well Hopkins hadn't unified his title at age 34,and didn't move up in weight until age 42.Hopkins fought Joppy and Holmes who weren't exactly hall of famers but competent champions,about the same level as Danny Jacobs who Golovkin fights next to unify with.Hopkins best wins following this were two very good natural welterweights and ot was years before he moved up.So the parallels at this point are pretty close.Like I say,why the premature judgment about rising in weight ?

Hey, great points on Hopkins! How about the other 3? Hopkins knew that he wasn't getting the big names, so you know what he did? At 36, he actually dropped down to 156 and beat the Golden Boy, Oscar de La Hoya. He didn't say "no catch-weight, no flat-fee." He did what he had to do to get the fight! That's the attitude I wish GGG had! Maybe we would've seen the fight already!

[Ake-Dawg]

Hunter didn't say he could get Ward to 168.

If Ward could have made 168 after coming back he would have stayed there and defended his title, instead of relinquishing it and starting training to be a full time LHW. Ward IS a fucking LHW!

Obviously, he could make 168 if he wanted to - like Kovalev said recently, he could make 168 or even 160 if wanted to, but whether he could then beat top fighters at 168 or 160 is something else.

The statement you made regarding Kovalev applies to Ward. Which is why the "can't make 168" argument should be put to rest. Besides, it only exists to deflect from the fact that Loeffler turned down the RocNation offer to fight Ward in 2016. There is ZERO need to continue with that as the fight is not on anyone's radar

[HURTFEELINGS]

Did he say something, we all didnt know? Thats why the lil g fans dont want him to fight Ward, because we all know Ward would stop lil g. They would've been jumped on that fight if they EEEEVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRR thought they could win it. When he was looking at 168 he said he'd fight Froch, Chavez Jr, but he left out the one person that was already on top of the division because he knows what his team knows, that he cant beat Ward. Plain and Simple

[bluepete]

Hey, great points on Hopkins! How about the other 3? Hopkins knew that he wasn't gettng the big names, so you know what he did? At 36, he actually dropped down to 156 and beat the Golden Boy, Oscar de La Hoya. He didn't say "no catch-weight, no flat-fee." He did what he had to do to get the fight! That's the attitude I wish GGG had! Maybe we would've seen the fight already!

The other three by their own admission outgrew the divisions they were in.Oscar later made the mistake of trying Welterweight again and looked like a dead man in the Pac fight.Btw like you said he dragged Hopkins down 4lbs ,the same thing GGG gets stick for trying to get Ward to do.Now remember when Hopkins fought Oscar he had just come off what everyone thought was a loss to Sturm,he was past it clearly.Also Hopkins himself had weighed in voluntarily at 157 and said he felt he could make 154 no sweat.But as for say Floyd ,he took Canelo down a couple of pounds.,Andre took Dawson down a whole division,despite Dawson asking for a reasonable 170.But all that aside.People always push for an advantage and that's understandable.But Canelos 154 adventure with Smith shows he's not interested in tough fights there either.He doesn't want Andrade ,the Charlos,he picked Smith.It's not going to matter what division its in ,he can make money without a real title or opponent very well,at least for the time being.

[Shadoww702]

this guy is such a hypocrite and purposefully ignores context. hmmm sounds like most boxingscene posters. does he forget when floyd chose as his first pick to fight marquez? ggg tried to fight canelo, saunders, jacobs, and eubank 4 of the best in his weight class and only then did he settle for brook who would give him a career high payday no less(i thought boxing was a business cept when ggg's fighting?) he only tried to fight 4 top guys in his division why didnt he try to fight unknown lara why did he take the 5 millino dollars! ggg you should have made less money because i hate you thats why!

Why didn't GGG take the flat fee is he truly wanted Canelo??? He tried fighting Canelo by demanding a 50/50 or 60/40 split... That's trying to price your self out of a fight more than anything.

[bluepete]

Did he say something, we all didnt know? Thats why the lil g fans dont want him to fight Ward, because we all know Ward would stop lil g. They would've been jumped on that fight if they EEEEVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRR thought they could win it. When he was looking at 168 he said he'd fight Froch, Chavez Jr, but he left out the one person that was already on top of the division because he knows what his team knows, that he cant beat Ward. Plain and Simple

Clearly Ward was a tougher challenge.That's why he wanted a concession from him and not the easier Froch and Chavez.This is the same reason Floyd happily fought an older Oscar at 154 but a more energetic Canelo had to make 152.It's the reason that Chad Dawson was forced all the way down to 168 instead of the reasonable 170 he asked for.All fighters try to get these advantages.Simple stuff.

[Shadoww702]

Well Hopkins hadn't unified his title at age 34,and didn't move up in weight until age 42.Hopkins fought Joppy and Holmes who weren't exactly hall of famers but competent champions,about the same level as Danny Jacobs who Golovkin fights next to unify with.Hopkins best wins following this were two very good natural welterweights and ot was years before he moved up.So the parallels at this point are pretty close.Like I say,why the premature judgment about rising in weight ?

That's not technically true. Hopkins moved up to fight at LHW his very first fight. And realized that was a HUGE mistake. So moved down to his NATURAL weight after he took a loss.

[bluepete]

That's not technically true. Hopkins moved up to fight at LHW his very first fight. And realized that was a HUGE mistake. So moved down to his NATURAL weight after he took a loss.

Yeah but that wasn't at any kind of world level.He admits he had no idea what he was doing ,ate a lot of carbs and just winged it.A four round lesson in fighting at a weight to the best advantage of yourself.Years later at age 42 when he did move up,it's because he couldnt beat the unified champion at Middleweight so he took Tarver ,who made the most money sense for his win over Roy Jones.

[kafkod]

The statement you made regarding Kovalev applies to Ward. Which is why the "can't make 168" argument should be put to rest. Besides, it only exists to deflect from the fact that Loeffler turned down the RocNation offer to fight Ward in 2016. There is ZERO need to continue with that as the fight is not on anyone's radar

So shut up about it and start thinking about who's going to be the next "New Floyd Mayweather" after Ward gets KTFO by Kovalev.

[kafkod]

That's not technically true. Hopkins moved up to fight at LHW his very first fight. And realized that was a HUGE mistake. So moved down to his NATURAL weight after he took a loss.

He moved up in his first fight? That doesn't make sense. Where did he move up from if it was his first fight?

BHop STARTED his career at LHW and fought multiple times above 160 before he moved down to MW for his first title fight.

When he was the same age as GGG is now BHop had won one world title - the IBF MW.