Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Sends Counter-Offer Terms For Canelo PPV

[Graz]

Man am so over this fight.. I don't care if it ever happens! The saga is pathetic! Canelo is yellow! I've always prefeered the Jacobs fight anyway!

Agree. The Alvarez/Golovkin fight is a fantasy. Not going to happen. We have Golden Boy Productions right where they want us Hyping a fight that will be unlikely to materialize. Lets bring on Jacobs.

[Nay_Sayer]

Canelo is a MW when it's convenient. Right now he's a WW. . Golovkin deserves a split. Let's face it he's the draw in this fantasy. Every other post on this forum is about Golovkin whether it be from lovers or haters. Canelo looked huge against Smith. He's no WW. Canelo is a great champion but he's being controlled by his promoters. Can't blame them it's just business, nothing more.

Bumlovkin is the draw?

97k PPVs sold suggests otherwise.

Lol...

[No-mas-tias]

Canelo can't make the kind of money he'd make with GGG with anyone else either unless he gives Cotto a rematch but he's too scared so all you Canelo groupies need to stop with this GGG should take whatever he's offered crap.

Canelo can't sell without a credible opponent, it has been proven many times.

[twrx]

Hate to say it, but GGG should just take whatever, knock this ginger out and demand whatever in a rematch.

Pretty much this i think 10 mil plus any ppv upside they can get is worth becoming the mega star he can be by winning

[robertzimmerman]

Key word being "could." PPVs are not doing that well as of late! Just like GGG vs. Brook was not Leonard vs. Hagler, GGG vs. Alvarez is not Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. Mayweather & Pacquiao were BOTH proven PPV stars. Canelo & GGG are not on the same level! We'll see what the state of boxing is when we see the Kovalev vs. Ward PPV numbers.

Of course Brook-GG wasn't Leonard-Hagler. Like I keep saying, we'll have to wait and see on the outcome of GG-Canelo. But the fight is going to be big. I think it will be bigger than Andre-Kov because it has much more casual appeal. Personally, I see Andre-Kov as the much bigger fight. I can't wait for it.

[robertzimmerman]

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Originally Posted by robertzimmerman View Post
You need to know how businessman operate. It's a good job you're not part of K2.

Like I said, I know what I'm talking about. That's MY point. Don't tell someone they don't know promoting when you don't know what the he!! you're on about.

We're going around in circles.

I've nothing else to say.

Again, I don't mind a fair split in Canelo's favour. But nobody with any business acumen would accept a flat fee a year out. That is not good business.

[robertzimmerman]

The terms for Kovalev-Ward were agreed to well before the first press conference.

Beyond that, it's not like the formal contract was sent by email; there's no venue, the sponsors still need to be figured out, TV rights and a host of other terms to settle.

Golden Boy likely sent K2 an offer sheet for a package worth eight figures, with that figure hardening once the details are better set.

It's quite clear what's happened.

Oscar sent out a BS offer to try and make it appear as though they're actively doing something.

Apparently, they're all going to sit down in 2 weeks to discuss things further. So it'll be interesting to see what transpires from that.

[robertzimmerman]

Floyd only split the pot on his fights with Pacquiao, Alvarez, Cotto, Oscar, Hatton, and Gatti; it didn't make sense, to Floyd, to have to split the pot with anyone else.

Golden Boy, on behalf of Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, have made it painfully clear that they don't think that Golovkin brings the business to the table to justify splitting the pot with K2, at any percentage.

If K2 is insisting on getting a split on the fight, the fight simply may not end up even happening.

What you've wrote doesn't make sense.

[robertzimmerman]

GGG should be happy with what Canelo first offered him, i dont get it if ggg is so confident in beating canelo like his groupie fans are why not take whats offered to you and if you beat the man you become the man.

Well because unlike gggs 12 yr old ****** fans he's not confident in beating canelo thats why he's trying to maximize that payday incase he gets his ass beat.

GGG is pricing himself out of the fight now just let his bum ass retire with a bum of the month record.

Get back in the real world.

Boxing is a ruthless business.

They have businessman around them who handle their careers.

K2 aren't going to accept $12m for GG when they know he's worth more.

He's not pricing himself out you fool.

Why do his fans have to be 12 year old *******?

What's wrong with you clowns?

[robertzimmerman]

Mayweather-Pacquiao ended up being twice the fight, financially, that anyone could've expected, and Manny Pacquiao MAYBE got $50m on the fight (the fact that Pacquiao, after the Floyd payday and another $20m for the Bradley fight, is still needing to fight Jessie Vargas to support his family makes it clear that his actual take wasn't astronomical).

Pacquiao could've gotten about the same money that he ended up getting, had a better chance in the actual fight (with an extra 4 years of youth in his body), and had a near 5-year run of continued fights (likely undergirded with a good performance on the biggest stage that he's likely to ever see).

$70m (about what Pacquiao's share on the PPV was, if he actually got his money), before deducting Roach's cut, Koncz's cut, training camp expenses, taxes, and advances from Bob Arum (travelling around with a 200-person entourage can't be all that cheap) seemingly didn't go all that far.

Another ridiculous post.

1. Floyd would never have fought Manny 4 years earlier.

2. Various reports say that the fight grossed around $500m. Manny didn't get $50m.

3. Even if Manny had accepted the $40m flat fee, he'd still have needed to pay Roach and his training expenses etc. So he wouldn't have made around the same amount that he actually made last year.

4. He's obviously not fighting Vargas because he needs the money.