Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Sends Counter-Offer Terms For Canelo PPV

[Robbie Barrett]

Name one fight where a non-ppv fighter got anywhere close to 40% against a fighter that sells 400k+ PPVs regularly.

You Golovkin ball lickers are too much.

[lizard_man]

golovkin doesn't deserve anywhere NEAR 40% canelo is gonna read that and laugh all the way into the sunset, because it's a joke.


also people have to take into account that canelo will be fighting golovkin at full 160 no draining nothing so it's benefiting golovkin. I have at least seen canelo make huge strives to get this fight made. agreed to full 160. offering golovkin upwards of 18 million dollars.

and golovkin is saying he wants 40%? first they said canelo will NEVER Offer golovkin no more then 2 million. and if they did they will gladly accept. not only that but they are moving up to the full 160 even though golovkin boasted about fighting at 154.


this is pathetic.......

it's pathetic but you have to admit that Mr. 97k has the most hardcore ride or die fans. Canelo could have offered him 30M guaranteed, turned it down, and the lil G cucks would have said "**** that. i'm glad he turned it down!! he deserves atleast 40%"

[robertzimmerman]

I am neither a Canelo supporter nor a GGG hater or vice versa.

I am just a boxing fan who wants to see the best fight the best and both fighters treated fairly.

Thinking out aloud a fight of this magnitude will generate a LOT of interest and REVENUE.
So the idea of a FLAT fee is a bit of a stretch in my humble opinion. Just my opinion.

Canelo is no doubt box office material. GGG is not quite there but is the most compelling fighter and opponent Canelo would have faced. GGG fights are must see affair EVEN when the opponent is overmatched.


The public wants this fight as much as we wanted Floyd v Paq.

For a fight of this magnitude and what it will generate NOBODY in their right mind will or should accept a flat fee.

No i am not saying they should both get the same but the idea of a flat fee just seems a bit ...well gangsta if you ask me.

I dont care who the A , A+ or A- side is.

Both camps should be able to share in the spoils with the greater percentage going to Canelo but the idea of a FLAT fee is absurd. But i guess that is what negotiations are for.

Also for the record i want to state that if this fight comes off i'll put my money on Canelo.

Some how there is feeling that Canelo is afriad of GGG. Nothing could be farther than the truth.

I get the feeling that people are underrating Canelo as much as they are overrating GGG.

Also dont sleep on Danny Jacobs. He could mess this all up!!

Great post mate.

Honest and objective.

[BluDivision]

They are just haters, or Canelo fans. In the U.S. the majority of boxing fans seem to be black racial supremacist types, who only watch boxing to see black people "beat" races they don't like, or Mexicans who obviously have a bias towards Canelo in many cases.

But even outside of Canelo, there are a lot of racially biased fans who just don't like seeing white fighters ruling the sport like Kovalev and GGG. They don't even like seeing any non-black fighter ruling the sport which is why you see the vitriol towards Chocolatito. I mean with GGG there was at least the Ward dispute, and he's become a big star so there's polarization, you can at least find excuses for why people might not like him. But Chocolatito is just this little unassuming guy who went up four divisions, never trash talks, extremely skilled, always in entertaining fights. There is literally nothing to dislike about him but you see the vitriol anyway because it's just about race to some of these "fans" and they see Chocolatito as just another guy who is an obstacle to black fighters being the best.

I never understood this until the last year. Before I was always like, no one actually likes Floyd, right? Everyone is just buying his PPVs to see him lose, right? But then you saw these TMT rallies where he had all these black fans there, and it was clear some people actually liked him. I was like how could anyone root for this boring cherry picker over an exciting fighter like Pacquiao who fought everyone and was the guy actually trying to deliver to fans the fight we wanted to see, as opposed to Floyd who was the obstacle to making that fight? Like why would anyone favor the person keeping them from getting what they want over the person trying to help them get what they want?

That was my first clue. And then when GGG and Kovalev came along, it became extremely obvious. GGG like Chocolatito just this nice guy, trying to give fans all the best fights, extremely entertaining, but they just hated him for no reason, because of his skin color. Meanwhile Andre Ward barely fought for five years, he kept trying to breach his lawful contract with the promoter who helped make him a star, just extremely shady. The courts kept saying the contract was lawful but he just kept trying to screw his promoter anyway. He wasn't delivering any top level fights, and the fights he did have were stylistically awful to watch. He was literally delivering nothing of value to fans and yet these same fans loved him. I didn't understand it back then but now it makes perfect sense. It's a race obsession to them. But if Ward loses to Kovalev, you will suddenly see them claiming that actually Ward is half white, and he never counted as black anyway. I'm serious that's how obsessed some of these fans are with race. When Kovalev and GGG succeed, they try to convince themselves these guys aren't white. I've seen all sorts of racial purity theorizing about them trying to delegitimatize their whiteness. It's crazy. And then if mixed fighters like Ward don't succeed, suddenly they will try to delegitimize their blackness. It's crazy. Before GGG fought Stevens, you saw many of them picking Stevens, rooting for Stevens. Afterwards I literally saw comments saying "he doesn't count as a real black fighter" because "he's not on the top level."

It's just racial ******ity is what it is. Why can't people just come together as humans and have a meritocracy, which is what the USA is supposed to be? Support the people who deserve it on merit, instead of supporting people on the basis of color.

SMH.....

Kovalev and GGG are white
Ward is Black

Kovalev is a great fighter with a great resume

GGG is a great fighter with a crap resume

If Ward beats Kovalev once again he proves is the pound for pound best.

If you think white fighters are discriminated against then you my friend need counseling! 🙃

[SceneBoxer]

This is just the start of negotiations. I expect Team GGG to start with a higher split and 60-40 is the right starting number. It may not be the "fair" split but I think it's a good starting point.

[Sadiqkingofko]

Manny and Mayweather were both PPV kings, Manny got 300K buys for fighting Rios, Golovkin would be lucky if he got 80/20 split lol

[robertzimmerman]

Triple Flop aka Mr 97k is the B side vs Canelo Mr 2.5 Million PPVs aka "The face of boxing" is the A side.
Take it or go fight another Wade.

Yes, he's the B side, but who's belts are they fighting for?

Who else can make Canelo the same money? He's on the verge of leaving JMW. So else can he fight at MW that will gross anywhere near the same? There's nobody.

Whilst GG is the B side, a flat fee a year out is a joke. If you can't see that you are a joke.

This will be one of the biggest grossing fights of all time.

Although Canelo should get more, he doesn't deserve to make 5 x the amount etc.

A fair overall split is fair.

[Mirus]

I'm a fan of GGG. But those terms are a bit ridiculous.. Maybe 70/30 or 75/25 For Alvarez.

You are clearly Canelita fan!

[HeroBando]

in which golovkin would be getting 10 million and a % of ppv which is AT LEAST 15 million.

he won't make 15 18 mill no where else. it's truly a ret@rded business decision.

I don't know of any upside, sounds like neither does Loeffler. I know their spokesman said they offered 8 figures and upside a month ago, but 2 weeks ago Oscar was saying flat fee strictly, they'll make a nice fixed offer in due time.

http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-flat-fee-golovkin-face-canelo-no-money-split--108479

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Not one of you GGG haters have ever negotiated a fight, obviously

I used to blame Canelo for the fight not being made but the refusal of GGG to negotiate weigh and now acting like he deserved almost 50% of the PPV/money is ludicrous, People needs to hold GGG accountable for this fight not happening.

I'll say to Canelo give them the middle finger and go separate ways.

That won't happen because the media knows the truth. Loeffler isn't hard to deal with. GGG isn't a regular fighter. If Canelo won't take 70/30, and the a-side things like coming into ring, blah, then he will be skewed for ducking.

Golovkin fans are delusional. 10+ mil and PPV upside is a lowball offer? This is a regualr HBO fighter that gets $2 mil we're talking about here. How the **** is paying him over 5x he makes lowball.

Depends what the upside is. K2 shouldn't except anything less than 70/30.

Like Chevez pointed out, this big money fights needs two people.

At 70/30 Canelo is making more than he's ever made before. If he doesn't do the fight because of a 70/30 split, then he's ducking.

As for the 60/40, what the he'll was Loeffler supposed to do, aim low and hope to get high.

Try that in business, see how well that works.