Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Denies They Rejected Offer For Canelo Fight

[REYESdelBOXEO]

👑 #1 P4P SAUL CANELO ALVAREZ💰

*Jr. Middleweight & Middleweight Kingpin*

CANELO to ggg-"155 any day of the week let's fight!"

ggg to CANELO-"No thanks , 160 or no fight"

CANELO to ggg-"160 let's fight!"

ggg to CANELO-"No thanks."

LMAO! 💃GOLOVQUEEN THE DIVA IS SCARED OF CANELO , ALWAYS HAS BEEN ALWAYS WILL BE! I TOLD YOU SO!
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🐔GGG NEVER WANTED TO FIGHT CANELO

CANELO WILL OUT BOX GOLOVKIN AND PUT HIM TO SLEEP , IN KO OF THE YEAR , AFTER GIVING GOLOVKIN THE BEATING OF HIS LIFE!

[Scipio2009]

How did GGG pick up the belts? seriously, I know that Canelo handed over the last one but don't know the details on the first two.

The only belt that Golovkin ever won in the ring was the IBF championship, and even that was sketch (the fact that Lemieux only got the belt because he happened to be the #8 IBF challenger, in a vacant title fight where Hassan N'Dam [IBF #1 challenger at the time] was literally abandoned by his promoter at the purse bid, leaving Oscar De La Hoya to literally title every possible advantage in the favor of Lemieux).

Golovkin was handed the WBC belt, fought for a vacant WBA interim title (before being handed the regular and "super" WBA championships), and fought for a vacant IBO title.

Golovkin literally has arguably the worse resume of any fighter ever considered for a p4p list ever, imo.

[Scipio2009]

Loeffler was being very diplomatic because he still wants to make the fight. However, he did say that more negotiations is needed in order to make it a fair deal. This is pretty much implying that this deal DLH is talking about isn't a fair deal. Additionally, why would a promoter take this offer seriously when DLH himself said he's targeting September of 2017?...also, Canelo is out for the rest of the year. And Loeffler does say that he thought they weren't going to negotiate in public. This makes it seem like DLH is trying to sabotage that fight from happening. So, essentially, you are taking DLH's side & encouraging that he sabotage the fight? As a boxing fan, I still want the fight. But to offer GGG what could possible be 10% of the money when he brings in half of the interest just isn't going to work in the real world.

How in the hell is a $10m package not a fair deal, when Golovkin's literally never made more than $3m on a fight ever ($2m for the Lemieux fight was the highest disclosed purse for Golovkin, but I'd figure that the Brook pckage was at least $3m)?

If K2 seriously think they're going to stick up Golden Boy for more money, they're being delusional.

[ThatDude44]

Jeez this is media spin. Oscar clearly stated they offered GGG 8 figures and they never heard back from Loeffler. Oscar never said they rejected the offer. Loeffler saying negotiations are still ongoing means Oscar was right. He hasn't gotten back to him yet. The fight is happening in September.

From what people are saying, it was the translator after the canelo fight that twisted Canelo's words and said that "GGG's team rejected the fight" but people in here were saying that Canelo only said that "he never heard back after sending an offer"

[Robbie Barrett]

Jacobs is the fight at 160 I would like to see, if this fight comes off fans should be happy. I don't think Canelo's team is in a position to make a flat offer fee to Golovkin. Remember Floyd making a flat offer of $40m to Manny? How did that turn out. It needs to be a percentage split.

Not the same at all. Pacquiao and Mayweather were close in draw, both were selling 1+ mil PPVs. Here we have a PPV fighter and a regular HBO fighter that flopped on PPV.

[ThatDude44]

Man in what twisted world is GGG a B side that deserves a flat fee like some mandatory. This man is the most talked about fighter in the hardcore fan circles and the casual boxing world.

• He sold out MSG, The Forum and The 02. He was the bigger fighter in all three events
• Currently stands as the #3 P4P fighter in the world.
• Has 4 of the 5 middleweight championships
• Most dominant fighter in his division
• Undefeated with 33 KO's, highest KO percentage in middleweight history and 23 KO streak
• Has never been outclassed in a fight in his life
• Delivered a knock down/out in every fight he's been in.

And somehow the cinnamon colored cunt Canelo is an A side for some strange reason. boy made 3.5 mil in his last fight and is dictating? If it wasn't for the mexicans that watch his fights twice a year, he'd be another Saunders.

He got nothing to bring to the table other than a loss to Mayweather that endeared us to him, a win over an old Mosley and a win over a smaller Cotto for a belt that he later vacated which made us hate him. Seems like he had a real HOF'er run.

Numbers don't lie.

[Robbie Barrett]

Loeffler was being very diplomatic because he still wants to make the fight. However, he did say that more negotiations is needed in order to make it a fair deal. This is pretty much implying that this deal DLH is talking about isn't a fair deal. Additionally, why would a promoter take this offer seriously when DLH himself said he's targeting September of 2017?...also, Canelo is out for the rest of the year. And Loeffler does say that he thought they weren't going to negotiate in public. This makes it seem like DLH is trying to sabotage that fight from happening. So, essentially, you are taking DLH's side & encouraging that he sabotage the fight? As a boxing fan, I still want the fight. But to offer GGG what could possible be 10% of the money when he brings in half of the interest just isn't going to work in the real world.

Half the interest?

Are you really trying to run with that? We could say that about any fight, Monroe should have got 50% vs Golovkin because he's half the interest.

Canelo is the bigger draw, he's the PPV fighter, he's the one that sells 50K tickets at double the price of Golovkin fights. $10+ mil is 5x the usual $2mil purse Golovkin gets paid for HBO. Canelo took $5 mil for a the 2nd biggest fight in history. 10+ mil is a fucking fantastic deal for a non-ppv fighter.

[Scipio2009]

This is a tactic often used by professional athletes. If an athlete bets on himself, then they're risking this money now in order to make more later on. And GGG's fanbase might very well grow from now until September, making his bargaining position that much stronger. Some might not agree with taking that risk. But it's not like it's never been done before. I can use baseball as an example. Tim Lincecum, starting pitcher for the San Francisco Giants, refused a lucrative extension. Instead, he bet on himself that he could make more. In the end, he did make significantly more when the Giants were forced to give him a 2-year deal worth 40mil. That's just one case where betting on yourself worked out. I think if GGG & his team want to take that risk, more power to them. I still want that fight.

It's not like Alvarez is just going to stand by idly; if the Smith PPV numbers come in over 600k PPV buys (the number that Golden Boy put out for the Khan fight), Alvarez debuts in NYC and does a $2m-$3m gate, and the May 2017 PPV is another box office success (over 600k PPV buys), Alvarez's negotiating position will be that much stronger.

Golovkin has at least 3 fights, between now and the Alvarez date; if he lays out another flop of any kind (the next PPV effort again doing 150k PPV buys, his next US live gate not doing blockbuster business, the HBO viewership numbers collapsing), he comes up bust again.

The $10m package turns to a $5m package pretty quickly.

[Scipio2009]

Actually, there are rumors out there that say GGG/Brook did around 400k on Sky Sports. That pretty much puts him on the same drawing level as Canelo. If this is true, then using the ppv draw argument becomes moot for all Canelo supporters. I guarantee you'll say that I'm just making s##t up. So, here...I didn't make up the rumors...I just read about them.

http://www.boxingnewsresults.com/201...tings-results/

Rumors aside, Sky Box Office was Eddie Hearn's event (with Brits paying to see a Brit take a chance, rather than buying because Golovkin was fighting) and cost cost of the PPV was closer to $35 (compared to the $70 that Alvarez charged for his fight).

Dollar for dollar, Alvarez is a significantly bigger star and draw than Golovkin is; 85/15 or 90/10 Alvarez, if you count the money, is likely about where the split merits being.

[Scipio2009]

Selling out a stadium is still selling out that stadium...no matter how you want to spin it. It literally means GGG can draw big crowds when he fights...& more importantly, he can draw crowd wherever he fights.

And as a boxing fan, I find it extremely intimidating that a boxer can attain belts because world champions are too afraid to get in the ring with him. Never underestimate intimidation in combat sports. Mike Tyson is a prime example. I even remember all the buzz Tyson was getting in his prime just for winning the psychological battle before the fight. I'm not placing GGG on the same level of Tyson just yet. But damn is he heading in the right direction. Fans should be happy such a champion exists in our time.

If the building seats 17,500, and you only stage the building for 12k, can you honestly call that a sellout? Because that's exactly what K2 did for both dates at the Forum to get the spin going. If Golovkin is the draw that he's supposed to be, run the full building and have him sell it out