Two Fights a Year Isn't Enough

[Tony Trick-Pony]

So what's the verdict?

Do you feel hopeful this current pathetic situation improves in 2017? We all know that fighters on long layoff won't immediately tackle tough fights and had to take tuneup fights first .

I don't know, man. It's not looking good. The situation is ridiculous at this point. I like Thurman-Garcia. That could definitely be a good fight. GGG-Jacobs is dragging out too long. Jacobs fought Mora this year and that's been in and that will be it. That ain't much. GGG tried to get Canelo and Saunders and Jacobs and zilch. He did try at least. Stevenson should face the Kovalev-Ward winner, but I bet he won't. I do figure on Lomachenko to challenge himself this coming year as will Terrence Crawford I think. But I don't know. A frustrating time all around, really.

[Raonic]

I can't blame the big stars for fighting twice a year (they usually fight elite fighters too). Not always easy for guys like Floyd, Manny, Cotto, DLH, etc to fight so many times when they usually have other ventures and are usually (Not always) fighting contenders/champions.

But these secondary stars should fight 3 times minimum.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I can't blame the big stars for fighting twice a year (they usually fight elite fighters too). Not always easy for guys like Floyd, Manny, Cotto, DLH, etc to fight so many times when they usually have other ventures and are usually (Not always) fighting contenders/champions.

But these secondary stars should fight 3 times minimum.

Yes, 3 times for sure, if not 4. They need regular exposure.

[al-Xander]

Inactivity not only kills the sport, it also makes fighters lose momentum. When fighters stay active they stay sharp and in good shape like the ts mentioned. The big question is, is this self-imposed considering they make $1+ million per fight against nobodies, thus in no rush to fight? Or the system is so f#ckd up that fighting regularly is simply not possible? It could be a catch 22: overypay fighters fighting nobodies, thus staying inactive after won't hurt. Instead of paying them at reasonable amount to keep the system financially healthy, make more fights, thus make them active and demand more fights... It's a mess.

[The Big Dunn]

Inactivity not only kills the sport, it also makes fighters lose momentum. When fighters stay active they stay sharp and in good shape like the ts mentioned. The big question is, is this self-imposed considering they make $1+ million per fight against nobodies, thus in no rush to fight? Or the system is so f#ckd up that fighting regularly is simply not possible? It could be a catch 22: overypay fighters fighting nobodies, thus staying inactive after won't hurt. Instead of paying them at reasonable amount to keep the system financially healthy, make more fights, thus make them active and demand more fights... It's a mess.

GGG and Canelo are only fighting 2x this year. Is this a problem? Are either over paid?

Maybe HBO should pay GGG less so he canfight a guy like Jacobs. You agree?

[al-Xander]

GGG and Canelo are only fighting 2x this year. Is this a problem? Are either over paid?

Maybe HBO should pay GGG less so he canfight a guy like Jacobs. You agree?

Many of them are now fighting once a year. Some didn't even fight this year. So 2 fights a year has become normal. Seems ****** to demand 3-4 fights a year when 2 fights is a huge struggle. Forget it. Two fights a year is okay.

[The Big Dunn]

Many of them are now fighting once a year. Some didn't even fight this year. So 2 fights a year has become normal. Seems ****** to demand 3-4 fights a year when 2 fights is a huge struggle. Forget it. Two fights a year is okay.

You have posted multiple times that 2 fights isn't enough for a top fighter. In 2016, HBO's 2 biggest stars have only fought 2x each this year. wlad Klitchko and miguel cotto, HBO's #4 and #5 biggest stars (after Kov) haven't fought at all this year. You haven't made one post or thread criticizing this.

Yet, for Haymon guys like Danny Garcia, you complain about them being inactive when they also are fighting 2x in a year while facing the same level of competition. You complain about guys like Thurman that have fought once.

Why the double standard?

[al-Xander]

You have posted multiple times that 2 fights isn't enough for a top fighter. In 2016, HBO's 2 biggest stars have only fought 2x each this year. wlad Klitchko and miguel cotto, HBO's #4 and #5 biggest stars (after Kov) haven't fought at all this year. You haven't made one post or thread criticizing this.

Yet, for Haymon guys like Danny Garcia, you complain about them being inactive when they also are fighting 2x in a year while facing the same level of competition. You complain about guys like Thurman that have fought once.

Why the double standard?

You're wrong. I didn't make this thread. If you followed the train of my posts I have been focusing on fighters who are now fighting once a year or approaching that situation. Go back and stop defending the current status unnecessarily. Be a fan. I posted a list of ALL fighters' activity/inactivity.

Again, it seems ****** to demand 3-4 fights a year when 2 fights is a huge struggle. Don't you think so?

[The Big Dunn]

You're wrong. I didn't make this thread. If you followed the train of my posts I have been focusing on fighters who are now fighting once a year or approaching that situation. Go back and stop defending the current status unnecessarily. Be a fan. I posted a list of ALL fighters' activity/inactivity.

Again, it seems ****** to demand 3-4 fights a year when 2 fights is a huge struggle. Don't you think so?

Where did I say you made this thread? You have posted about it multiple times in this and other threads, a search of your posts indicates this.

I am not defending anything. I asked you specific questions which you keep avoiding. You attribute not fighting 3-4 times a year to being overpaid by Haymon.

Are the HBO guys overpaid now that they are fighting less than 3 times a year? SHould HBO pay guys less for easy fights to get them to fight more than 2x a year?

[al-Xander]

Where did I say you made this thread? You have posted about it multiple times in this and other threads, a search of your posts indicates this.

I am not defending anything. I asked you specific questions which you keep avoiding. You attribute not fighting 3-4 times a year to being overpaid by Haymon.

Are the HBO guys overpaid now that they are fighting less than 3 times a year? SHould HBO pay guys less for easy fights to get them to fight more than 2x a year?

You're wrong. Post a link where I said they should be fighting 3-4 times a year. Again, seems ****** to demand 3-4 times a year when 2 fights a year seems sufficient for this current crop of fighters. It's unrealistic. Fighting once a year is egregious. That's been the gist of my posts.