Can't ask GGG to dare to be great, he isn't cut from that cloth
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Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View PostThe weight class is 15, but in the ring Kov wil, have a bigger weight advantage.
At least when Brook came up, he was the same weight as GGG if not heavier.
I still think GGG fights the winner, but not until after he completes his MW goals.
The CW was set at 158, but Hopkins came in light.
However, the difference (as compared to Canelo) de la Hoya was actually a good bit smaller than B-hop, de la Hoya wasn't a MW, heck he could be a 147 pounder.
Canelo on the other hand isn't lighter than GGG, in fact he doesn't give up weight or reach, only height.
I never said it doesn't make since.
I just said GGG is finally poised to gain his unification, get big MW fights, and land Canelo (the pressure is on.)
B-hop didn't go up to 175 to fight the best fighter before he beat De La Hoya and Tito.
In fact, B-hop only moved up once he lost at MW.
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Hey Hopkins, you're much taller than Frazier and you have a longer reach than Marciano. Go make a statement and fight Deontay Wilder .
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GGG is a small middleweight. He's the Middleweight champion. He has destroyed everyone. He doesn't walk around at 175 plus. Isn't there a reason why we weight classes?
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Originally posted by sicko View PostB-Hop you're not fooling anybody, you're trying to get him off of your "Investment" so you can preserve Canelo and make some money since that is really the only fighter GBP have at the moment, they just can't afford for him to lose right now and I wish they would say that instead of all this BS lol
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post160 to 175 = 15
In real terms it's more than that when taking into account fighters walk around weights. If he fights a 175 guy, he is really fighting a 185-190 guy. If Kovalev fights a Cruiser, he is really fighting a 200+ guy.
This applies to everybody of course. Smaller fighters who move up to fight GGG, face the same challenge but we're talking about GGG right now.
And this is my firm stance on GGG and his run at 160: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=721836
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Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View PostI'm not sure I agree with that on its face. Leonard is greater than Hagler, but I don't think that means B-hop is greater than Monzon.
Plus, the higher classes are harder to move up. GGG if he started pro young could have started at 154, maybe should have.
MW to SMW is the hardest jump. I do think GGG will win a title at 168 and at least try for Ward or Kov.
I do think it augments though, but winning more titles in more classes doesn't automatically put you above.
If that was the case right now Canelo would be better than GGG, and I just don't think it's the case--especially since both of Canelo's titles were won buy beating a guy who was in the weight class below or belonged there.
Hatton and Cotto both gave up size. And even winning the title from Smith is good, but not great.
I think Canelo will be a hof though.
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