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  • #81
    Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
    If Canelo is a Jr MW then Golovkin is a Welterweight...

    Canelo fight night weight is around 175. Golovkin's is 171.

    Canelo "somehow" cuts 20 pounds. He's not tall but he's ****ing heavy.

    Just because canelo is having one fight at 154 doesn't mean he's a JMW. He's been fighting at 155 for years.
    What does that matter? Canelo can cut weight and use that to his advantage...every other fighter does that when they're young. Pac**** did that. Floyd did it. Cotto did it.

    As fighters/people get older they can't cut weight like they used to. Younger guys always cut weight and rehydrate a lot of weight.

    Lomachenko fights at 126/130...but he walks around at 145ish. Does that means he's a WW? No. It means he knows how to train and condition his body to slim down and put water weight back on for the fight.

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    • #82
      I agree, lots of flaws in Golovkins game that Canelo can expose, as long as Canelo doesn't just take shots like he did against Angulo he would cruise to the finish

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Bjl12 View Post
        What does that matter? Canelo can cut weight and use that to his advantage...every other fighter does that when they're young. Pac**** did that. Floyd did it. Cotto did it.

        As fighters/people get older they can't cut weight like they used to. Younger guys always cut weight and rehydrate a lot of weight.

        Lomachenko fights at 126/130...but he walks around at 145ish. Does that means he's a WW? No. It means he knows how to train and condition his body to slim down and put water weight back on for the fight.
        It doesn't matter what Lomachenko walks around at. What matters is the fight night weight.

        One thing is to cut 10/12 pounds. 18/20 pounds is unreal and I believe it's done with some kind of illegal procedure.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by My Low Place View Post
          that is false..if ggg won he'd easily be p4p king...but you know ggg loses so u didnt even take that it account
          I did take that into account. If Ward beat GGG, would that be because he was better P4P, or just bigger? And if GGG beat Ward, would that make him better than Chocolatito or Loma, P4P?

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          • #85
            Size is no issue we know canella is a mw. Movers lateral movement give canella big problems. Slow feet not hands. So GGG and him toe to toe combos head and body will be a war of attrition. Hardest fight of Both of their careers Floyd was a spanking no beating. Both seem to have good chins . Tougher fight than people realize for GGG but he wins

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            • #86
              Originally posted by kafkod View Post
              I did take that into account. If Ward beat GGG, would that be because he was better P4P, or just bigger? And if GGG beat Ward, would that make him better than Chocolatito or Loma, P4P?
              dude u judt put loma in an arguement for p4p and he's only beaten an uproven russell and washed up martinez...im done talking bru...

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                What, like you tricked me or something? I always said Canelo was a fake ass champion, and I've said many times that I don't even think Golovkin - Canelo is a particularly good fight outside the scale of the event. Also that from Canelo's perspective that he has no real need or reason to fight Golovkin. You think I was 'defending' Golovkin or something? No. I was merely taken aback by the utter absurdity of your reasoning. That was all.
                wat is absurd to you would b found knowledgeable by someone with my knowledge background...dont hate wat u dont understand..just feel free not to understand it buddy

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                  If Canelo is a Jr MW then Golovkin is a Welterweight...

                  Canelo fight night weight is around 175. Golovkin's is 171.

                  Canelo "somehow" cuts 20 pounds. He's not tall but he's ****ing heavy.

                  Just because canelo is having one fight at 154 doesn't mean he's a JMW. He's been fighting at 155 for years.
                  but fighting majority of his the relevant portion of his career there makes him a jr mw. .and he belongs to those fighters..not ggg..face..h should try to unify 154 not vacate if he wins the title

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                  • #89
                    Funny headline, but I think the opposite will happen.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                      It doesn't matter what Lomachenko walks around at. What matters is the fight night weight.
                      It doesn't matter. If a fighter makes their contracted weight...they can weigh in whatever they want the next day - some organizations have a limit. But every fighter jeopardizes their health when they drain as much as you say.

                      Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                      One thing is to cut 10/12 pounds. 18/20 pounds is unreal
                      I don't know Canelo has ever been 18/20 pounds more. That heaviest I ever saw him was against Trout and Lara where he was 171. Both Trout and Lara were like 168+...so weight was not a factor in either fight.

                      Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                      I believe it's done with some kind of illegal procedure.
                      Based on...? I believe Poochman used PED's and lil g is doing something illegal for his power...but I have no evidence so it really doesn't matter. It's all speculation

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