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How so Hearn? The guy promised KO, only lasted 5 rounds, lost on points and capitulated with a towel.
REAYLLLYYY???
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Does Kell Brook Lack Power for 154 Division?
September 12, 2016:
Scott Gilfoid
I’ve seen all the top fighters at 154, and I don’t think that Brook has the power, size or the boxing skills to be a major player at junior middleweight. Here are the top fighters at 154: Jermell Charlo, Miguel Cotto, Saul Canelo Alvarez, Demetrius Andrade, Erislandy Lara, Jermall Charlo, Liam Williams and Julian Williams. Most of those guys are big enough and powerful enough to fight at middleweight. These are fighters that rehydrate into their 170s just like Golovkin does, yet they choose to fight at junior middleweight.
There’s not much difference between the power of these guys and Golovkin. They may not hit as hard, but they’re powerful enough to create a lot of problems for a pumped up welterweight like Brook. I would rate Brook well below the power of those fighters.
Heck, I don’t even see Brook as having the power of some of the fringe contenders at junior middleweight like Willie Nelson, Vanes Martirosyan, Jarett Hurd, Michael Soro, Erickson Lubin, Charles Hatley, Gabriel Rosado and Liam Williams. Those guys all gave heavy hands with big frames and are naturally powerful for the junior middleweight class. With the exception of perhaps Lubin, they might be missing the overall talent to win a world title at 154, but they’re all very powerful.
I rate Brook’s power to be close to guys like Austin Trout and Tony Harrison. Those guys aren’t big punchers, and they have to depend more on their boxing skills to get wins. Neither of them is ranked in the top 5 in the division, which kind of gives you an indication of where Brook is heading in the future at junior middleweight.
The way I see it, Brook’s lack of power at the 154lb level will doom him to being just another one of the fringe contenders once he gets found out by one or more of those top names. It might not even take one of the top guys to beat Brook. I could see him getting beaten by some fringe contenders as well. I think Tony Harrison beats him and Trout as well. Terrell Guashua, Hurd and Daquan Arnett would be a nightmare for Brook. I’m just saying. Unless Brook can get back down to 147 to continue campaigning as a welterweight, I think it might be game over for him as a true major player in boxing.
http://www.************.com/2016/09/...-154-division/
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostWe all know that the best: Lara, J-Rock, the Charlo Bros., Tony Harrison, etc., are with the PBC. We just saw Lara and both Charlo Bros, all fight in one night. We also saw Andrade fighting on Showtime! We just saw Harrison KO Rabchenko, @ 154. We know Gausha and Lubin are with the PBC! So if Brook goes to HBO, he's going away from the best of the 154 division! If he wants Cotto or Canelo, that's cool, but if he wants the best @ 154, PBC is where it's at! By signing with HBO, Brook will be setting himself up for "network issues" and everyone knows this beforehand!
And none of them would be big money fights for Brook, that's for sure, unless they came to the UK to fight him.
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Originally posted by Pozomuro View PostHeavier does not equate to bigger. Kell could have been heavier than GGG but still, GGG looked and was bigger. Believe me, Kell just has a new fan. What I saw last Saturday was a display of good boxing and huge heart from his part. I just hope that his injury doesn't become a career ending one. However, I still believe it was a huge miss match and it shouldn't have been allowed to happen.Last edited by kafkod; 09-12-2016, 09:01 AM.
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Hopefully Brook's eye isn't too bad. It would be a shame if he can never capitalize on the guts he showed against Golovkin because of that injury.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostWho says those guys are better than Cotto, Canelo or Liam Smith? Canelo already beat Lara, ffs.
And none of them would be big money fights for Brook, that's for sure, unless they came to the UK to fight him.
Canelo Alvarez got the duke tonight over Erislandy Lara, but there's some controversy, as is often the case, though at least this time, it appeared there was a solid argument for either man to win. Official scores were 115-113 and 117-111 for Canelo, and 115-113 for Lara. BLH had it 115-113 for Lara, while Showtime's Steve Farhood had 115-113 for Lara, as well.
The fight saw several rounds that could have been called swing rounds, as I personally had at least five rounds of the 12 that I felt could have gone either way. I shaded toward Lara, who landed some crisp shots, but absolutely did "run" for much of the fight, while Canelo landed a lot of solid body shots along the way.
http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/7/13...ision-in-vegas
Lara would easily beat Cotto, and Cotto knows that! The money fights are Cotto and Canelo, that's why GGG is still @ 160. But if Brook wants the best @ 154, then he goes PBC!
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostDoes Kell Brook Lack Power for 154 Division?
September 12, 2016:
Scott Gilfoid
I’ve seen all the top fighters at 154, and I don’t think that Brook has the power, size or the boxing skills to be a major player at junior middleweight. Here are the top fighters at 154: Jermell Charlo, Miguel Cotto, Saul Canelo Alvarez, Demetrius Andrade, Erislandy Lara, Jermall Charlo, Liam Williams and Julian Williams. Most of those guys are big enough and powerful enough to fight at middleweight. These are fighters that rehydrate into their 170s just like Golovkin does, yet they choose to fight at junior middleweight.
There’s not much difference between the power of these guys and Golovkin. They may not hit as hard, but they’re powerful enough to create a lot of problems for a pumped up welterweight like Brook. I would rate Brook well below the power of those fighters.
Heck, I don’t even see Brook as having the power of some of the fringe contenders at junior middleweight like Willie Nelson, Vanes Martirosyan, Jarett Hurd, Michael Soro, Erickson Lubin, Charles Hatley, Gabriel Rosado and Liam Williams. Those guys all gave heavy hands with big frames and are naturally powerful for the junior middleweight class. With the exception of perhaps Lubin, they might be missing the overall talent to win a world title at 154, but they’re all very powerful.
I rate Brook’s power to be close to guys like Austin Trout and Tony Harrison. Those guys aren’t big punchers, and they have to depend more on their boxing skills to get wins. Neither of them is ranked in the top 5 in the division, which kind of gives you an indication of where Brook is heading in the future at junior middleweight.
The way I see it, Brook’s lack of power at the 154lb level will doom him to being just another one of the fringe contenders once he gets found out by one or more of those top names. It might not even take one of the top guys to beat Brook. I could see him getting beaten by some fringe contenders as well. I think Tony Harrison beats him and Trout as well. Terrell Guashua, Hurd and Daquan Arnett would be a nightmare for Brook. I’m just saying. Unless Brook can get back down to 147 to continue campaigning as a welterweight, I think it might be game over for him as a true major player in boxing.
http://www.************.com/2016/09/...-154-division/
Please, do not quote that fraud here ever again.
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