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  • #81
    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
    for a person who was allegedly a fight promoter, you're ****ty with numbers; DiBella wouldn't have to bid $6m for the fight, he'd simply have to bid more on the fight than K2 seems willing to bid.

    With the fight in hand, Lou DiBella would control the fight revenues, and, as Jacobs' promoter, would cut Jacobs in on the upside on the event. No different than what Golden Boy was able to do on the bid for N'Dam-Lemieux; they got the bid on a lowball, yet Lemieux's actual payday (as the 25% side of the bid) was allegedly well over $1m while N'Dam made ****.

    The "Canelo-GGG" model doesn't apply, for the simple fact that Golovkin is nowhere near the proven draw that Alvarez is.

    The simple fact of the matter is there's more money on Jacobs' side (commitment from Barclays Center/Showtime) than there is on Golovkin's side (MSG/HBO) for the fight.

    keep ignoring reality if you want.
    ...shut up scipio...stop talking waffle ffs

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    • #82
      Originally posted by paulf View Post
      What planet are you living on??



      Right??
      Simple logic.

      The price to put on Jacobs-Quillin and Golovkin-Lemieux was basically the same (the main event was more expensive for Golovkin-Lemieux, but the supporting card was more expensive for Jacobs-Quillin).

      When faced with what to do, Jacobs' broadcaster put up the money to broadcast the fight, while Golovkin's broadcaster decided to put the fight on PPV (bilking arguably 100k homes out of their money for a non-PPV fight).

      Smoke may not mean fire, but it's beyond obvious that HBO and their boxing budget is under serious distress, while that same thing does not exist over at Showtime.

      When the time came to gauge wallets, HBO was found to be lacking, and that's unlikely to change anytime soon.

      You add the the live gate potential of Barclays vs MSG, and not sure where you're coming from

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
        That's untrue. Loeffler said they came back and worked out a deal to get BJS his $4mill, but BJS walked away (probabyl b/c it hinged on UK ppv buy rates?)

        Sounds like you know more about how K2 is willing to do business than K2 does. You shouldn't be wasting your time on a message board.

        Saunders and Warren have both said BJS would fight on the Fury/Klitschko undercard on Oct 29th and be back for a big fight in December. That's their claims.

        Sounds like you know more about how Warren/Saunders are willing to do business than Warren/Saunders do. You shouldn't be wasting your time on a message board.
        If you have a source for K2 "working out a deal to pay Saunders his $4m", it'd be much appreciated if you share it.

        All I know is that Billy Joe Saunders has publicly said that the offer from K2 was for $1.5m, he would've already signed to fight Golovkin if the offer was $4m, and there've been no statements to even suggest that Billy Joe Saunders is now being offered $4m for the fight.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
          ^^^lol, look at this clown

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            Simple logic.

            The price to put on Jacobs-Quillin and Golovkin-Lemieux was basically the same (the main event was more expensive for Golovkin-Lemieux, but the supporting card was more expensive for Jacobs-Quillin).

            When faced with what to do, Jacobs' broadcaster put up the money to broadcast the fight, while Golovkin's broadcaster decided to put the fight on PPV (bilking arguably 100k homes out of their money for a non-PPV fight).

            Smoke may not mean fire, but it's beyond obvious that HBO and their boxing budget is under serious distress, while that same thing does not exist over at Showtime.

            When the time came to gauge wallets, HBO was found to be lacking, and that's unlikely to change anytime soon.

            You add the the live gate potential of Barclays vs MSG, and not sure where you're coming from
            After the Jacobs Quillin disaster you want them to compound it by paying 2x+ to promote the Hbo guy? I wouldn't doubt lol.

            Look dummy, K2 can bid 6m no problem and get Jacobs much cheaper than they offered already. If Haymon wants to make sure he's winning that bid, he's gotta go 8m+. If he's that reckless with the hedge fund money, his bluff is gonna get called. But he wouldn't even go there for Wilder, who's way more valuable, with way better odds and a way more favorable purse split

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
              Simple logic.

              The price to put on Jacobs-Quillin and Golovkin-Lemieux was basically the same (the main event was more expensive for Golovkin-Lemieux, but the supporting card was more expensive for Jacobs-Quillin).

              When faced with what to do, Jacobs' broadcaster put up the money to broadcast the fight, while Golovkin's broadcaster decided to put the fight on PPV (bilking arguably 100k homes out of their money for a non-PPV fight).

              Smoke may not mean fire, but it's beyond obvious that HBO and their boxing budget is under serious distress, while that same thing does not exist over at Showtime.

              When the time came to gauge wallets, HBO was found to be lacking, and that's unlikely to change anytime soon.

              You add the the live gate potential of Barclays vs MSG, and not sure where you're coming from

              and that took place at a different time in history. Haymon does not seem to be as willing these days to lose several million dollars on a single event. Maybe you didnt notice, but your "big draw" NY moneybags Jacobs took a paycut of over 50% from the Quillin fight to the Mora fight.........

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              • #87
                Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                After the Jacobs Quillin disaster you want them to compound it by paying 2x+ to promote the Hbo guy? I wouldn't doubt lol.

                Look dummy, K2 can bid 6m no problem and get Jacobs much cheaper than they offered already. If Haymon wants to make sure he's winning that bid, he's gotta go 8m+. If he's that reckless with the hedge fund money, his bluff is gonna get called. But he wouldn't even go there for Wilder, who's way more valuable, with way better odds and a way more favorable purse split
                If Daniel Jacobs beats Gennady Golovkin, Barclays Center has a native son as their feature attraction, and Showtime potentially has a PPV fighter to work with. Follow the money; not that complicated.

                Jacobs is 29, is American, is well spoken, is a good guy, and has a story that resonates beyond boxing (in addition to actually being a really good fighter). With the Saunders, Eubank Jr, and Lee fights as potential options (in addition to locally important tick-over fights, against a guy like Avtandil Khurtsidze) for Barclays Center, and the lure of a Canelo fight in Vegas (whenever he's ready), it's clear as day that scared money doesn't make money.

                There's no point in the folks behind Daniel Jacobs delaying his shot forever; eventually, we're supposed to see how good Jacobs is. And, I doubt that DiBella is going to wait until Jacobs is in his mid 30s to find out.

                Hilarious that you seem to believe that K2 can bid $6m "no problem", yet they were so short on money that they had to put a $4m fight card on PPV (knowing full well what it was) to try and make things work.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by mjgaz6 View Post
                  Jacobs already stated that he wants 8 million to fight GGG. This match isn't happening because Jacobs isn't reasonable when it comes to a purse.
                  Is this for real? He is out of his ***in mind.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
                    and that took place at a different time in history. Haymon does not seem to be as willing these days to lose several million dollars on a single event. Maybe you didnt notice, but your "big draw" NY moneybags Jacobs took a paycut of over 50% from the Quillin fight to the Mora fight.........
                    Barclays Center has decided (while also being a premier venue that hosts massive world-level fights) to hitch the promotional push for "Brooklyn Boxing" to Daniel "Miracle Man" Jacobs. Floyd's in a class of his own, but if Jacobs pulls off the win, there's no doubt in my mind that they'll put up a "Home of The Champ" banner for Jacobs.

                    Maybe you didn't notice, but Jacobs-Mora II actually happened in Reading, PA, at a venue called Santender Arena.

                    Also, interesting how you have purse information when no such information pops up on search, lol.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
                      Is this for real? He is out of his ***in mind.
                      no, it's not real; simply an exaggeration of some nonsense that has been floating on this site for a while now.

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