Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[travestyny]

Oh, you kinda said it. Cong****!


What I said is there are lots of variables and we do not know exactly. Its not like Diaz told us, did he?

What I do know is that the LAB results came back positive for a substance that Diaz has admitted to being a user of. You know that to be true as well.

How did they manage to get a positive result for the same substance that Diaz uses and you think its what? Just a coincidence? What? Please explain that one to me because you never did.


Again, lots of variables. Did the 2 LABs use the same protocol or are we mixing apples with oranges? Oh wait, they did use a different protocol. Nevermind.

I also told you about specific gravity but the above points to you not getting that too!

So at least you said that you were wrunnn

LMAO. Now you have to make shlt up?

All of the tests found marijuana metabolites, foolio. But one found an outrageous amount. You know. The one that ****ed up chain of custody, anonymity, and is not WADA accredited. HMM.

You lost. But if you ever find the balls to stand up for what you believe, you know how to find me.

By the way, 12 ounces??? LMAOOOOO

[IR0NFIST]

You still upset that I buried you? LMAO. I own your soul.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy.


"I tried to tell'em it's the money team"

[travestyny]

Hmmm, the above post from me is like night and day compared to yours. Maybe you were posting about something else and got it Wrunnn AGAIN?

Oh, like night and day?

Well maybe if you answer the questions, I will be able to have an idea of what the **** you are trying to bs, I mean say.

So one more time.

1. Did Pac's team lie about sending paperwork to NSAC?

2. Did Pac's team lie about providing proof of injury to USADA?

3. Did Pac say he was not in pain before the fight? Did Pac lie about that?

4. Did Arum lie about receiving a TUE for toradol?

Now maybe you can try to give some straight answers to each question. I'll be waiting.

---------EDIT----------

From Mr. Bob Arum on May 6th, 2015:

"Then he rested it for a couple of months and it went away," Arum said. "It's a recurring kind of injury. It can kick up again, which it did in sparring [2½ weeks before] this fight. They gave him a series of treatments that enabled the pain to go away and then when he went into the fight, he was feeling absolutely no pain and using his right arm."
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/arum-pa...ry?id=30833993




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. SO IF THERE WAS NO PAIN, MR. ADP02, WHY WAS DR. NEAL ELATTRACHE TRYING TO SHOOT PACQUAIO UP WITH PAIN-KILLERS?

NOW ONCE AGAIN, WAS THE WORLD RENOWNED DOCTOR ATTEMPTING TO HELP PACQUIAO CHEAT, OR IS THIS JUST MORE LIES? I KNOW THAT IT'S CONVENIENTLY ALL LIES WHEN IT FITS YOUR AGENDA.LMAO. PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK

PACQUAIO SAYS: NO PAIN BEFORE THE FIGHT
ARUM SAYS : NO PAIN BEFORE THE FIGHT
DR. NEAL ELATTRACHE SAYS: FULL STRENGTH BEFORE THE FIGHT.
ADP02 SAYS: PACQUAIO ALWAYS TELLS THE TRUTH, BUT HE OCCASIONALLY LIES WHEN IT FITS MY AGENDA.

YOU LOST.

[Dosumpthin]

1. If its as you "critics" call it "numbing" well try talking after the dentist numbs your mouth. How effective are you in talking?

Before: "Doctor, Do something to kill the pain"
AFTER: "Thattt shiot cerrrtainly Dosumpthin"

I didn't ask what a random Floyd fan told you. I asked you to explain how toradol would limit Manny effectiveness as you claimed previously.

Try to answer the question this time using facts to support your opinion.

2. It wasn't me. It was both Mayweathers (Sr and Jr) that called Dr Alex Ariza a cheat. So did the Floyd fans.

Then when Dr Alex Ariza teamed up with an admitted PEDs cheat in Memo Heredia and then the IV scandal and the BS excuses for the IV, well yes, who wouldn't call them cheats! Floyd paid them the big money so they would do anything for Floyd.

It was Freddie Roach himself that initially insinuated that Ariza was a "shady" character when he was Mannys S&C coach.

but this doesn't suprise me.

Floyd + Ariza = peds
Manny + Ariza = clean

Floyd + lidocaine = peds
Manny + lidocaine = clean

Floyd + PRP treatments = blood doping
Manny + PRP treatments = clean

Floyd accepted USADA test = peds
Manny denied USADA test = clean

Floyd followed the protocol for IV use under WADA code and approved TUE and legal under NSAC rules = peds

Manny is caught red handed by NSAC trying to abuse toradol for a non disclosed painless injury alledgedly sustained 5 years prior with an imaginary TUE = clean




Pact@rds have no shame.

[travestyny]

I didn't ask what a random Floyd fan told you. I asked you to explain how toradol would limit Manny effectiveness as you claimed previously.

Try to answer the question this time using facts to support your opinion.

It was Freddie Roach himself that initially insinuated that Ariza was a "shady" character when he was Mannys S&C coach.

but this doesn't suprise me.

Floyd + Ariza = peds
Manny + Ariza = clean

Floyd + lidocaine = peds
Manny + lidocaine = clean

Floyd + PRP treatments = blood doping
Manny + PRP treatments = clean

Floyd accepted USADA test = peds
Manny denied USADA test = clean

Floyd followed the protocol for IV use under WADA code and approved TUE and legal under NSAC rules = peds

Manny is caught red handed by NSAC trying to abuse toradol for a non disclosed painless injury alledgedly sustained 5 years prior with an imaginary TUE = clean

Pact@rds have no shame.

This is ether right here! This dude just needs to give up already.

[Dosumpthin]

Pact@rds ether themselves on a daily basis.



They say **** like.......

I hope this comes back to bite floyd on the arse in the same manner it bit lance Armstrong, this is exactly how he managed to take EPO and not get caught, via illegal IV infusion

This idiot goes on to post a random quote from an article to support his claim about ABP and Micro dosing with EPO......

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...android-att-us


BUT SHAPEUP NEVER READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE.........


"The CIR test, which extends the detection period for fast-acting testosterone gels and creams from a few hours to several days, costs $400 and takes 2.5 days to complete, so is far more costly and time-consuming than the T/E test. But as Conte puts it: “If they had used CIR tests, which came in 1994, there would have never been a seven-times Tour de France champion called Lance Armstrong.”"





We now know all samples were CIR tested.

“Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s unsubstantiated claims...CIR testing was conducted on all 22 urine samples collected from both Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao during the testing program in advance of their fight,”

- USADA






So now the pact@rd is left looking ******. Self ether.

Just proves he has no idea what he is talking about and lacks the ability to read and comprehend information.


No point debating with pact@rds like this.


"Did it to yourselves"

[travestyny]

What I said is there are lots of variables and we do not know exactly. Its not like Diaz told us, did he?

I see that you're here now. So allow me to answer your questions specifically. What you have above is speculation, but even your speculation doesn't matter. What variables will allow him to drop from 733ng to 61ng of marijuana metabolites in 75 minutes? I'm sure weedheadz around the world would like to know about that. Is it 12ounces of water?

What I do know is that the LAB results came back positive for a substance that Diaz has admitted to being a user of. You know that to be true as well.

How did they manage to get a positive result for the same substance that Diaz uses and you think its what? Just a coincidence? What? Please explain that one to me because you never did.

Sure, I'll explain. I hope you can follow. All three tests taken on the day of the fight found marijuana metabolites. Two from the WADA lab were 61ng or lower, and 1 from the non-WADA lab was 733ng. Now the question is, why are you going with the 733ng non-WADA accredited lab that ****ed up the chain of custody of the sample and ****ed up the anonymity of the sample as opposed to the two WADA accredited lab results that followed all WADA protocol? Since I answered your question, I'd like for you to answer mine.

Again, lots of variables. Did the 2 LABs use the same protocol or are we mixing apples with oranges? Oh wait, they did use a different protocol. Nevermind.

And I'm assuming that you mean to say the protocol that Quest used once is somehow superior than the protocol that the WADA accredited lab used twice in this matter. Hmm. But not only that. You do realize that Quest relies on a specific gravity test to confirm their test for a diluted sample, do you not? Now, what do you have to say about that? It's not that Quest uses one instead of the other. Quest says even if the sample fails the creatinine test, it still is NOT confirmed as dilute depending on the results of a specific gravity test. Hmmmm. Explain that.

I also told you about specific gravity but the above points to you not getting that too!

What did you tell me about specific gravity? That it's relied on by Quest, whom you are insinuating had a superior protocol than the WADA accredited lab?

[ADP02]

I didn't ask what a random Floyd fan told you. I asked you to explain how toradol would limit Manny effectiveness as you claimed previously.

Try to answer the question this time using facts to support your opinion.







It was Freddie Roach himself that initially insinuated that Ariza was a "shady" character when he was Mannys S&C coach.

but this doesn't suprise me.

Floyd + Ariza = peds
Manny + Ariza = clean

Floyd + lidocaine = peds
Manny + lidocaine = clean

Floyd + PRP treatments = blood doping
Manny + PRP treatments = clean

Floyd accepted USADA test = peds
Manny denied USADA test = clean

Floyd followed the protocol for IV use under WADA code and approved TUE and legal under NSAC rules = peds

Manny is caught red handed by NSAC trying to abuse toradol for a non disclosed painless injury alledgedly sustained 5 years prior with an imaginary TUE = clean




Pact@rds have no shame.

Oh so you do not think that? Then what's the problem?


BTW
- Manny never used the legal substance.
- Floyd used a banned method with no notification to the NSAC. Why? Floyd actually went much further because of the above but more importantly, Floyd used the IV. There are several places on that form where it indicates that the NSAC should be aware of. Floyd did not!

Floyd fans have no shame!


WADA rule? What do they say about IVs? They say to use an alternative when its mild to moderate dehydration. WADA, NSAC, USADA, studies all say to drink a few cups of fluids for each pound lost.

Floyd was seen drinking just about the amount suggested by the above. So why the IV?

Floyd fans have no shame!

[ADP02]

Oh, like night and day?

Well maybe if you answer the questions, I will be able to have an idea of what the **** you are trying to bs, I mean say.

So one more time.

1. Did Pac's team lie about sending paperwork to NSAC?

2. Did Pac's team lie about providing proof of injury to USADA?

3. Did Pac say he was not in pain before the fight? Did Pac lie about that?

4. Did Arum lie about receiving a TUE for toradol?

Now maybe you can try to give some straight answers to each question. I'll be waiting.

---------EDIT----------

From Mr. Bob Arum on May 6th, 2015:

"Then he rested it for a couple of months and it went away," Arum said. "It's a recurring kind of injury. It can kick up again, which it did in sparring [2½ weeks before] this fight. They gave him a series of treatments that enabled the pain to go away and then when he went into the fight, he was feeling absolutely no pain and using his right arm."
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/arum-pa...ry?id=30833993




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. SO IF THERE WAS NO PAIN, MR. ADP02, WHY WAS DR. NEAL ELATTRACHE TRYING TO SHOOT PACQUAIO UP WITH PAIN-KILLERS?

NOW ONCE AGAIN, WAS THE WORLD RENOWNED DOCTOR ATTEMPTING TO HELP PACQUIAO CHEAT, OR IS THIS JUST MORE LIES? I KNOW THAT IT'S CONVENIENTLY ALL LIES WHEN IT FITS YOUR AGENDA.LMAO. PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK

PACQUAIO SAYS: NO PAIN BEFORE THE FIGHT
ARUM SAYS : NO PAIN BEFORE THE FIGHT
DR. NEAL ELATTRACHE SAYS: FULL STRENGTH BEFORE THE FIGHT.
ADP02 SAYS: PACQUAIO ALWAYS TELLS THE TRUTH, BUT HE OCCASIONALLY LIES WHEN IT FITS MY AGENDA.

YOU LOST.

So that is how you answer? With questions?




.

[ADP02]

LMAO. Now you have to make shlt up?

All of the tests found marijuana metabolites, foolio. But one found an outrageous amount. You know. The one that ****ed up chain of custody, anonymity, and is not WADA accredited. HMM.

You lost. But if you ever find the balls to stand up for what you believe, you know how to find me.

By the way, 12 ounces??? LMAOOOOO

What does that mean that they FOUND marijuana metabolites in all urine samples?
ANSWER: Yes even if its below the threshold for marijuana, it indicates that he is in fact a user of marijuana!

PLUS

The 2 tests by SMRTL, what were the specific gravities? Below, normal or above normal for a person?
BOTH were considered hydrated samples. TEST #1 more so than TEST #2


12 ounces: Its a study that had subjects that used 1 gallon and 12 ounces and other substances as well. If you check, other studies have used similar type of amounts.
After 1 quart and 12 ounces there is a shift in hydration then as the subject drinks another quart 1 hour later, they become hyper hydrated in certain subjects. In fact, most do.

I remember that either that study or another explains this ..... but if it makes you laugh, go ahead. Its good to laugh.



but I know its all spin and deflections.
How did they manage to get a positive result for the same substance that Diaz uses and you think its what?
Just a coincidence? What? Please explain that one to me because you never did.

How come he had so much difficulty just days before getting a negative test? Due to what? Marijuana!!!Just a coincidence?


Lets see you say it .... WRUNNNNNNG!!!