Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[Dosumpthin]

*sigh* I see the point completely flew over your head. Allow me to rephrase it using the fewest words possible so as to not confuse your fragile little brain.

IV Infusions are banned by WADA. Toradol is NOT. This fact alone makes your entire argument along with the premise of this thread look like a complete joke.

IV Infusions are banned by WADA without a TUE.

NSAC requires fighters to be in a normal state.

[LoadedWraps]

[IR0NFIST]

IV Infusions are banned by WADA without a TUE.

NSAC requires fighters to be in a normal state.

TUE, or no TUE. It still doesn't change the fact that IV infusions are banned by WADA, and toradol is not.

[ADP02]

One lab didn't use proper protocol. They even admit they didn't use proper protocol. That is a fact.

And I do believe the info I gave said this:
The most accredited doctor (who analyzes for criminal/court testing) stated that this shouldn't even be questioned, but treated as a negative result.

Explain that.

Man you are falling off .... just admit and move along to the next battle.

But here is what Diaz had said:
"Back in 2009, Nick Diaz told the LA Times his method for avoiding positive marijuana tests despite frequently smoking weed and listening to jams. “I can pass a drug test in eight days with herbal cleansers. I drink 10lbs of water and sweat out 10lbs of water every day. I’ll be fine.” Unpleasant as it sounds, this method has proven 90% effective for generations of high school kids, job applicants, and people on probation. Unfortunately for Diaz, the precaution failed on one of three fight-night tests and now it’s costing him his career."


"In his best attempt to articulate the issue at hand, Diaz said, “I didn’t test positive. And they raised the limit. They didn’t say, ‘You can’t be using any THCs.’ It’s not a full banned substance. It’s banned after a certain percent. Or after a certain nanogram, or whatever you call it. I wish I had the terminology so I could stand here in front of this camera and sound smart. But I fight. That’s why I fight. That’s what I do.” "



Even Diaz is telling you that he uses!


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[Raggamuffin]

It is not up for debate whether Pacquiao ever cheated. I just want to know when he started. I'm guessing that he started after moving to 122.

[ADP02]

Dude, you didn't answer any of these questions. Why are you ducking them. Give a straight damn answer:


1. Did Bob Arum lie when he said info about the injury was sent to NSAC directly by his lawyers?

2. Did Pac's team lie when they said info about the injury was sent to USADA? And I mean enough info that USADA could prove the injury to NSAC as Arum has been saying they agreed to do.

3. Did Pacquiao state he had no pain before this fight? Do you believe he was lying?

4. Did Bob Arum lie about Pac receiving a TUE for toradol?

I'm still waiting. Step up!

I have always answered your questions. You on the other hand have often deflected.


The above was answered already.

Arum is not the one handling all this. So if he really thought all that then he was wrong.

As I stated before, what Arum probably meant was that USADA approved the meds used by Manny BUT you are reaching here. None of this matters because there is really no point for you to make on this.

[travestyny]

Man you are falling off .... just admit and move along to the next battle.

But here is what Diaz had said:
"Back in 2009, Nick Diaz told the LA Times his method for avoiding positive marijuana tests despite frequently smoking weed and listening to jams. “I can pass a drug test in eight days with herbal cleansers. I drink 10lbs of water and sweat out 10lbs of water every day. I’ll be fine.” Unpleasant as it sounds, this method has proven 90% effective for generations of high school kids, job applicants, and people on probation. Unfortunately for Diaz, the precaution failed on one of three fight-night tests and now it’s costing him his career."


"In his best attempt to articulate the issue at hand, Diaz said, “I didn’t test positive. And they raised the limit. They didn’t say, ‘You can’t be using any THCs.’ It’s not a full banned substance. It’s banned after a certain percent. Or after a certain nanogram, or whatever you call it. I wish I had the terminology so I could stand here in front of this camera and sound smart. But I fight. That’s why I fight. That’s what I do.” "



Even Diaz is telling you that he uses!


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You are lost. Everyone knows he uses. No one is saying he doesn't use. The other two tests found marijuana too. The problem is there is no way the accredited lab that followed protocol was 10times off. Did you ever wonder why the WADA lab never came under fire over this and why everyone was bashing NSAC over this issue? Go search online and see what people thought about NSAC for this decision. You won't like what you find. And that is not only from non-specialists as I've already shown you.

[travestyny]

I have always answered your questions. You on the other hand have often deflected.


The above was answered already.

Arum is not the one handling all this. So if he really thought all that then he was wrong.

As I stated before, what Arum probably meant was that USADA approved the meds used by Manny BUT you are reaching here. None of this matters because there is really no point for you to make on this.

Say what? How the hell did you answer the questions?

1. Did he lie? Yes or no?
2. Did they lie? Yes or no?
3. Did PAc say he had no pain? Yes or no? Did he lie? Yes or no?
4. Did he lie? Yes or no?

Maybe that will help you out.

[travestyny]

Methods Prohibited At All Times (Both In- and Out-of- Competition)
M1. Manipulation of Blood and Blood Components

Blood doping, the use of red blood cells from any source, or otherwise artificially enhancing the uptake, transport, or delivery of oxygen, is prohibited. Any type of intravenous (IV) manipulation of the blood or blood components by physical or chemical means is prohibited.--------- look what I found when I clicked on the drugs section of the NSAC website ****head, it's a revised usada protocol for the NSAC ****head

Oh look what I found:
NSAC executive director Bob Bennett said: “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”

Now was he manipulating his blood with chemicals or treating dehydration with IV fluid, THE SAME AS DE LA HOYA DID.

Eat a ****, biotch.

[ADP02]

You are lost. Everyone knows he uses. No one is saying he doesn't use. The other two tests found marijuana too. The problem is there is no way the accredited lab that followed protocol was 10times off. Did you ever wonder why the WADA lab never came under fire over this and why everyone was bashing NSAC over this issue? Go search online and see what people thought about NSAC for this decision. You won't like what you find. And that is not only from non-specialists as I've already shown you.

FAIL! Nope, you are. Diaz even admits to using and to what he does to avoid being caught. Diaz, like Floyd, tried to beat the system by diluting .... which means masking the true result.


The controversy is about Diaz's ban and why he was banned. I do not think that someone should be banned from the sport for so long for this violation but that is not my point. BUT he was caught like 3 times for the same thing so you are wrong!!!

The point is that even when the urine sample was below the threshold (sg test), the WADA approved LAB couldn't come up with a positive result. As you, Diaz and everyone knows, Diaz does use the substance and just by checking out the sq results, you know what Diaz was trying to do. Diaz was trying to dilute his urine sample so that he would not have a positive result.


If you cannot even admit to this then there is no hope for you. You do not even have to say that you are wroooooong .....