Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

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Yo ADP02 , more lies:

Pacquiao's promoter put out a statement on behalf of the fighter late Monday afternoon saying that the injury was disclosed to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which approved the use of an anti-inflammatory shot for the fight. But USADA was only a third party to the fight, charged only with testing the fighters for banned substances in training and the night of the bout.

"We had no medical information, no MRIs, no documents," said Travis Tygart, who heads the USADA. "It was not an anti-doping issue. The real question is why his camp checked 'no' on the disclosure. Either they made a terrible mistake to not follow the rules or they were trying not to give information to the other side. I'm not sure there's a middle ground."

Tygart said his agency, which was hired by promoters to oversee drug testing for the bout, was contacted April 7 asking about the use of various substances and whether they were allowed under anti-doping rules. He said there was another call 10 days later asking about using a different substance, again for what the USADA was told was an unspecified shoulder problem.

So all of that talk about disclosure to USADA was really just a phone call asking what was illegal and what wasn't, huh? LMAO. How the hell would USADA be required to contact NSAC about the injury with no proof of one given to them??? I mean, I knew that this was how it went down, but I never saw it stated outright until now.

Then you got Koncz saying he filled out the medical form, but NSAC says this:

Nevada Athletic Commission executive director Bob Bennett said Pacquiao filled out the form himself and understood the questions. A copy of the form was posted earlier on the True.Ink website, signed by both Pacquiao and his manager, Michael Koncz.
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...houlder-injury

Man, your God's team is FULL OF LIES. How many lies have they been caught in now?

Get out of here with this bullshlt. I'm so done wasting my time on this shlt. Guilty as sin. Case closed.

I'm done.

1) You see that USADA is throwing Manny under the bus but knowing full well that Floyd had NOT notified the NSAC. Why are they protecting Floyd, WHO USED the banned IV while doing the opposite with Manny who did NOT use any meds?

2) "I'm not sure there's a middle ground" said USADA. So again, why is there a middle ground when it comes to Floyd? USADA, NSAC and you say it. Why? Just to protect the Nevada fighter.

3) USADA actually says that Manny has a shoulder injury before the fight. "USADA was told was an unspecified shoulder problem."

4) USADA knows about Floyd. Why wait until after the fight? Especially since USADA, NSAC and YOU want to throw Manny under the bus for a check mark!

5) Lots of proof that shows that Floyd lied but you always come up with dumb response in hopes that it will stick. Why?


Just to remind you, I'm not even defending Manny. He should have checked the check box and followed the rules. Maybe it was a mistake. Maybe it wasn't ..... He still had an injury and the NSAC's concern was not Manny's injury. It was about putting Manny at a disadvantage.

YOU on the other hand are going out of your way to defend Floyd and his lies. I just do not like the fact that they go beyond following the rules when it comes to Manny and want an investigation but not for the NEVADA golden egg named Floyd Mayweather.

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Whats dumb is that you never talk like this when it comes to Floyd requiring an IV.

Toradol is NOT a banned substance. The only issue was that the NSAC wanted to make sure that Manny was at a disadvantage and later when they found out about Floyd not notifying, the NSAC and YOU and other Floyd fans brushed it off.

Either you quickly skim through what people post or you genuinely lack the abilty to comprehend what you are reading.

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Usada said themselves they were oly hired to do the testing and were only a 3rd party, why did they think they had authority to give a tue when Bennett clearly said they didn't, as for MMA, BJ Penn was removed from a fight card for an IV ****head

Will you shut the **** up moron. I explained this **** to you already. If you can't understand by now then go read a damn book. You're an absolute idiot that is too hurt to face reality. Go jump off a bridge.

[travestyny]

Just to remind you, XYLOCAINE was about Floyd NOT Manny

Lots of athletes who have injuries have used Toradol and its not a banned substance. IV is banned but you are not going there. I wonder why?

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Are you ******ed. Try to follow.

1. You quoted a NSAC physician about Floyd using xylocaine on his hands in a video about Floyd using xylocaine on his hands that was televised during a NSAC sanctioned fight.

2. Did any NSAC physician know about Manny's shoulder before the fight? Did he try to use xylocaine or toradol?

See your mistake now?

By the way, IV is not banned by NSAC and not banned by WADA when a TUE is approved. Stop crying already.

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1) You see that USADA is throwing Manny under the bus but knowing full well that Floyd had NOT notified the NSAC. Why are they protecting Floyd, WHO USED the banned IV while doing the opposite with Manny who did NOT use any meds?

2) "I'm not sure there's a middle ground" said USADA. So again, why is there a middle ground when it comes to Floyd? USADA, NSAC and you say it. Why? Just to protect the Nevada fighter.

3) USADA actually says that Manny has a shoulder injury before the fight. "USADA was told was an unspecified shoulder problem."

4) USADA knows about Floyd. Why wait until after the fight? Especially since USADA, NSAC and YOU want to throw Manny under the bus for a check mark!

5) Lots of proof that shows that Floyd lied but you always come up with dumb response in hopes that it will stick. Why?


Just to remind you, I'm not even defending Manny. He should have checked the check box and followed the rules. Maybe it was a mistake. Maybe it wasn't ..... He still had an injury and the NSAC's concern was not Manny's injury. It was about putting Manny at a disadvantage.

YOU on the other hand are going out of your way to defend Floyd and his lies. I just do not like the fact that they go beyond following the rules when it comes to Manny and want an investigation but not for the NEVADA golden egg named Floyd Mayweather.

Let's end this:

1. Did Bob Arum lie when he said info about the injury was sent to NSAC directly by his lawyers?

2. Did Pac's team lie when they said info about the injury was sent to USADA? And I mean enough info that USADA could prove the injury to NSAC as Arum has been saying they agreed to do.

3. Did Pacquiao state he had no pain before this fight? Do you believe he was lying?

4. Did Bob Arum lie about Pac receiving a TUE for toradol?

When you answer these questions you will realize you failed.

I DARE YOU TO ANSWER!

It's over.

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Will you shut the **** up moron. I explained this **** to you already. If you can't understand by now then go read a damn book. You're an absolute idiot that is too hurt to face reality. Go jump off a bridge.

No you didn't, once they were overruled by the NSAC over the toradol injection, don't you think it would have been a good time to mention Floyd had an IV and hadn't even applied for a TUE at that stage and it was performed at his house

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No you didn't, once they were overruled by the NSAC over the toradol injection, don't you think it would have been a good time to mention Floyd had an IV and hadn't even applied for a TUE at that stage and it was performed at his house

Who was overruled over the toradol injection? NSAC refused to allow Pacquaio to be shot up with toradol. It had nothing to do with USADA. It's not like USADA was present and said, "Oh, Pac, you can't take Toradol. Now is a good time to tell them about Floyd's IV." USADA wasn't in the dressing room and the situation didn't concern them!

Second, a retroactive TUE is a standard part of the WADA protocol, so there were no rules broken by Floyd.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Please stop.

[Dosumpthin]

Sorry but you either cannot get my point or just want to protect Floyd.

Why are you bringing up LABs/Passports when it was the DCO who initially determined if Floyd's sample was too dilute? My point is that if LABs/Passport finds dilution irregularities, its too late in Floyd's case! What are they going to do with that sample? Its too dilute! :lo1:

I brought up WADA labs because they ensure the anonymous samples pass the specific gravity test.

I reference ABP because athelets will face blood doping violations if it is determined they manipulated their values.


You said athletes are free to submit diluted samples - you don't understand the concept of the Athlete biological passport "thingy".


You should read up on it.

Samples were collected hours after the DCO initially went to visit Floyd. So to say, you are also aware but do not mention that there was a delay of about 6 hours to get Floyd's urine. That in itself may have accomplished what Floyd wanted.

WADA procedure requires the DCO to wait until The athlete can provide a sample that would pass the gravity test.

The DCO following procedure is an indication that Floyd cheated?

Nick Diaz had 3 urine samples collected on the day of one of his fights. 2 samples used specific gravity tests to check for dilution. They came back .003 and .006. According to WADA rules, .006 is passible. Both samples returned negative results (not in violation). The third test which was done by Quest Lab and used a different protocol (not sg) turned in a positive result.

So to say that the sg test did not catch that the urine sample was too dilute to get a positive result!!!

Typical backwards pact@rds logic on full display here.


1. We are talking about WADA PROTOCOLS AND PROCEEDURES. not NSAC.

2. Your talking about 3 diferent samples taken at different times tested by two different labs.

3. Are you saying WADA labs are not capable of testing for marijuana? Wtf?

You are twisting the quote. The quote is stating that its su****ious when an athlete gets an IV just before the sample collection. They are not saying its OK if you declared it.

Declared it in advance - pissed in a cup prior to using the IV is a big difference than an athlete getting caught with an IV in his arm.

There have been cases where the athlete has declared the IV beforehand but USADA still said that they were in violation. Floyd is special ......





As stated above, yes that holds true for Floyd but others have declared but were in violation.

Lets discuss this further. Can you provide a name so we can understand why they were in violation?

I know enough about the passport .....
Floyd used an IV then 3 weeks later was given a TUE.

If for instance, Floyd usually comes in with substance XXX at a level of 0.0001 but due to the IV, there was a dilution of 50% then the substance XXX may be at a lower level of lets say 0.000005. Under normal circumstances, this would be flagged as a violation but due to the IV, the urine was diluted and skewed Floyd's results.

So Floyd can come back and say I had an IV and that skewed my results! Then presents that BS RETRO TUE! Passport results are then thrown out the window!

Not only does not make sense and is demonstraion of your lack of understanding,

It doesn't even make pact@rd sense.


This same scenario would hold true if Floyd rehydrates orally as you suggested he could've done.! So wtf are you talking about.

While we cannot know which PED Floyd was trying to hide, it may have been EPO and he would more than likely be microdosing, as I have already pointed out before.

At that point in time, Floyd more than likely thought that testing was over except for after the fight test. He more than likely microdosed the night before the weigh in then got an unexpected knock by the DCO that day. To be sure, Floyd delayed as much as he can and drank as much as he can and used an IV. Depending on his dose, the delay could have been enough but why chance it.

Others have micro-dosed and got caught. One cyclists said that the only reason that he got caught was because he forgot to drink plenty of water after microdosing. In other words, he had done it before and passed the test every time he drank plenty of water.

Again, we saw Floyd delay, drink plenty of water then unexplainably still need to use an IV. That is unacceptable

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Cool story. Floyd knew when to expect every other dco except the one before the fight.

Yeah. Uh. No.


If you are going to speculate at least do so responsibly.


Micro dose epo 1 day have Floyd super human strength.

Smh.

[travestyny]

I brought up WADA labs because they ensure the anonymous samples pass the specific gravity test.

I reference ABP because athelets will face blood doping violations if it is determined they manipulated their values.


You said athletes are free to submit diluted samples - you don't understand the concept of the Athlete biological passport "thingy".


You should read up on it.






WADA procedure requires the DCO to wait until The athlete can provide a sample that would pass the gravity test.

The DCO following procedure is an indication that Floyd cheated?



Typical backwards pact@rds logic on full display here.


1. We are talking about WADA PROTOCOLS AND PROCEEDURES. not NSAC.

2. Your talking about 3 diferent samples taken at different times tested by two different labs.

3. Are you saying WADA labs are not capable of testing for marijuana? Wtf?





Declared it in advance - pissed in a cup prior to using the IV is a big difference than an athlete getting caught with an IV in his arm.





Lets discuss this further. Can you provide a name so we can understand why they were in violation?





Not only does not make sense and is demonstraion of your lack of understanding,

It doesn't even make pact@rd sense.


This same scenario would hold true if Floyd rehydrates orally as you suggested he could've done.! So wtf are you talking about.

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Cool story. Floyd knew when to expect every other dco except the one before the fight.

Yeah. Uh. No.


If you are going to speculate at least do so responsibly.


Micro dose epo 1 day have Floyd super human strength.

Smh.

Man, don't listen to that dude. The bullshlt he is talking about with Nick Diaz had NSAC being railed left and right over.

Test 1: Pre-fight, 7:33pm. WADA accredited, anonymous, negative for marijuana, far under.

Test 2: Post-fight, 10:38pm. Not accredited or regulated, not anonymous, not properly sealed, positive for marijuana (THC metabolites TEN times higher than Test 1). This lab also collects much less urine, which gives less accurate results than when more urine is collected

Test 3: 11:55pm (less than 90 minutes after test 2). WADA accredited, anonymous, negative and consistent with Test 1.
The NSAC didn't even look at Test 1 and 3, but instead brought charges only on the unaccredited test that consistently broke protocol.

The most accredited doctor (who analyzes for criminal/court testing) stated that this shouldn't even be questioned, but treated as a negative result.

An expert witness provided by Diaz's defense expressed doubt as to the validity of the positive test, arguing that it was "not medically possible" for an individual to hydrate themselves so thoroughly within a span of less than two hours as to dilute their urine enough to cause the dramatic separation from the 10:38 p.m. results and the 11:55 p.m. negative test.

And Mayweather was not allowed to give a diluted sample after the IV:

IV infusions before sample collection could actually prolong the doping control sample process
because it has a greater potential to produce multiple dilute samples. (SPECIAL THANKS TO IR0NFIST FOR THIS)


Let this clown keep stumbling over his microdosing speculation theory.

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Either you quickly skim through what people post or you genuinely lack the abilty to comprehend what you are reading.

So you are looking in the mirror?

Is that what you are telling yourself? Just asking?