Comments Thread For: WBA Declines To Sanction Golovkin-Brook Middleweight Bout

[Eastcoast]

Well **** I'm for sure doing it wrong compared to you cuz I definitely consider a draw a successful title defense for the champion. In my eyes any fight you don't lose the title in that you coulda lost the title in is a successful title defense cuz you still got the title.

That's just my opinion on W/L/D towards title defenses. Draws officially count as successful title defenses, but this was a NC. The event was incomplete, and doesn't even count as a draw on his record.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

hopefully after this mess, GGG fights a decent opponent

[kafkod]

I'm on record stating that I think the defense streak is a total joke, but not because he was elevated. I just don't see the WBA regualr belt as anything more than an interim belt.

In 2010, Felix Sturm was the WBA champion and GGG was the interim champ. There was no super champion and no regular champion at MW.

When GGG asked the WBA to mandate a fight between he and Sturm, the WBA response was to reintroduced the super title and award it to Sturm. They then told GGG the title he was mandated to fight for had been down-graded to "regular" status.

So as I'm concerned, Sturm was a paper champion after that, and Golovkin became the WBA MW champ by beating Nilson Tapia, in the ring.

[Eastcoast]

WRONG.

The title for which he is alleged to have made 16 consecutive defenses, the WBA title, is NOT on the line. Therefore, NO 17th defense of a MW title can be made in the Brook fight.

If the WBC and IBF titles are up for grabs then Bumlovkin will be making his 1st and 2nd defenses respectively of those titles.

Please take your head out of your ass...

Wasn't expecting reading comprehension to be your strong point, so here we go.

Golovkin just made 16 straight MW title defenses. Fact.
His next fight will be another MW title defense. Fact.
16 + 1 = 17 Fact.

[Jewish-Reptile]

That makes 4 ******s.

A GGG fan boy disagreeing with you is a blessing, thank you for your blessing.

[Eastcoast]

the topic is the title run......total title defenses is great but golovkins fans have stressed that his title run is whats gonna make him great. get it? So now you wanna switch & talk total title defenses? you see, if we do that we then gotta go into more of who's he's actually fought.

thats why the title run is important.

You're arguing semantics. Golovkin defended a MW title 16 straight times. He's about to defend a MW title once more. That means he's defended a MW title 17 straight times.

But consecutive defense are irrelevant towards a title run. He's still retaining the WBA title if he wins, so he goes back to defending that particular title after this fight. His WBA title run will still be tallying after this fight. You guys are pathetic with trying to find yourselves these little moral victories against Golovkin.

[therealpugilist]

He has beaten plenty of top ten guys and the ones he has'nt fought are no fault of his own. I've followed boxing for over 30 years and I've never witnessed this many people duck one guy so blatantly. There is absolutely no reason not to fight the guy unless they are scared. So if the "top" guys are going to bow to him than your damn right I'll consider him the man in the division. Even if he had no belts there would be no question who the man is. Given the circumstances someone needs to prove he is'nt the man not the other way around.

bro...im keeping it as simple as possible.

To be champion you have to eliminate top 3 fighters...he hasn't...regardless of the circumstances he hasn't, and until he does he will remain just a top contender with 3 major title straps but he is not the world's middleweight champion

[GoldenGloveLove]

As a standalone decision I would understand this and say maybe that's fine but they sanctioned Makoto Fuchigami as a "title" challenger. This is a metric ****ton better than that fight. So this looks like an attention grab to look more discerning and credible, even though we know they're not very discerning or credible.

bro...im keeping it as simple as possible.

To be champion you have to eliminate top 3 fighters...he hasn't...regardless of the circumstances he hasn't, and until he does he will remain just a top contender with 3 major title straps but he is not the world's middleweight champion

He is not the middleweight champion, fine, but Geale was the Ring's number two contender when Golovkin made him look like nothing actually.

[Eastcoast]

See my last post. He had wba world title. Not super. Hes not close to the record. Iff Danny Jacobs goes the rest of his career with the wba world title would anyone say he has the record? No cause it's not the real belt

I'm not disagreeing with you. Golovkin's argument is strictly on 'MW title defenses'. He's not even considered the lineal/undisputed champion yet per experts like Cliff Rold, so his current title defenses aren't considered going towards Monzon's or Hagler's records. In the same aspect, Hopkins run on their records didn't start until after he beat Tito, which put his number of defenses at 6.

[kafkod]

You're arguing semantics. Golovkin defended a MW title 16 straight times. He's about to defend a MW title once more. That means he's defended a MW title 17 straight times.

But consecutive defense are irrelevant towards a title run. He's still retaining the WBA title if he wins, so he goes back to defending that particular title after this fight. His WBA title run will still be tallying after this fight. You guys are pathetic with trying to find yourselves these little moral victories against Golovkin.

As the WBA title won't be on the line, does that mean GGG will still be WBA champ even if he loses, and could still go on to break the record for most consecutive defences?