Comments Thread For: WBA Declines To Sanction Golovkin-Brook Middleweight Bout

[Robbie Barrett]

GGG was the WBA interim champion and he beat Nilson Tapia to become the regular champion after the WBA were paid by Felix Sturm's promoter to elevate Sturm to super champion so he didn't have to fight GGG. The was no WBA super champ at MW till that happened.

Sturm was the WBA champion, how can you count regular defences when there was a super champ? Is Jacobs considered the WBA champ or Golovkin?

[DreamerUSA]

I see your point but it is a fact that he didn't win it in the ring.

Is it ok then to not count the 12 defenses between being awarded the belt and beating Lemuiex LOL?

The GGG fans shouldn't let this bother them so much.

I'm on record stating that I think the defense streak is a total joke, but not because he was elevated. I just don't see the WBA regualr belt as anything more than an interim belt.

[Ray*]

So his team didn't officially inform them or they didn't pay the sanctioning fee?

[HanzGruber]

Sturm was the WBA champion, how can you count regular defences when there was a super champ? Is Jacobs considered the WBA champ or Golovkin?

nobody would be saying jacobs is gonna break the record if he defended the wba world title 15 times.. cause its not the real belt

Makoto Fuchigami
Grzegorz Proksa
Gabriel Rosado
Kassim Ouma
Lajuan Simon

these are some of the guys gg defended his title vs..

[Eff Pandas]

if the fights never happened, you don't get credit...simple as that

Who's talking credit? I'm not. I'm talking about guys critical of GGG's resume should logically be MORE critical of the guys not willing to be a part of GGG's resume cuz those guys are preventing GGG's resume from being better than it currently is or are diminishing their own greatness if they were to beat GGG.

[therealpugilist]

No its a joke that the very guys you want him to fight to earn credit, won't fight him. Jacobs, Quillen, BJS, and Canelo all ran like little *****es. As for what it means for GGG. It means he is the man at middleweight. Using the fact that the top guys are total *****es in the division as a way to **** on Golovkin just seems like lazy logic to me. He has tried to make fights with everyone of these "top" guys and they either vacated, weasled or just flat out ducked him. What makes it even worse is the guy is a legit payday + legacy fight + 3 titles and mother****ers still won't fight him. But yes lets **** on Golovkin because he was elevated 6 years ago.

has he beaten the top middleweights? no

case closed...not that deep.

[Can'tHoldMeBack]

So his team didn't officially inform them or they didn't pay the sanctioning fee?

From article that came out before WBA wasn't informed brook was going be a opponent and they title be on line until fight was announced

[Eff Pandas]

I can see it going both ways. Going into the fight, the title is on the line. But if you lose the fight, you don't get credit for a title defense, and the argument is that you should only get credit if you win. With an incomplete fight, the argument is that it's like it never happened. His first fight with Allen ended by injury before a conclusion could be reached.

Well **** I'm for sure doing it wrong compared to you cuz I definitely consider a draw a successful title defense for the champion. In my eyes any fight you don't lose the title in that you coulda lost the title in is a successful title defense cuz you still got the title.

[Eff Pandas]

nobody would be saying jacobs is gonna break the record if he defended the wba world title 15 times.. cause its not the real belt

Makoto Fuchigami
Grzegorz Proksa
Gabriel Rosado
Kassim Ouma
Lajuan Simon

these are some of the guys gg defended his title vs..

Tbf anyone who's counting title defenses with all these watered down titles nowadays gives me the urge to slap them in the back of their head & tell them to get their **** together. Title defenses are an obvious means for promoters to hype their investment or a specific fight, but no reasonable non-fanboy or hater fans should give a f#ck cuz the strength of all titles are at a all time low.

[DreamerUSA]

has he beaten the top middleweights? no

case closed...not that deep.

He has beaten plenty of top ten guys and the ones he has'nt fought are no fault of his own. I've followed boxing for over 30 years and I've never witnessed this many people duck one guy so blatantly. There is absolutely no reason not to fight the guy unless they are scared. So if the "top" guys are going to bow to him than your damn right I'll consider him the man in the division. Even if he had no belts there would be no question who the man is. Given the circumstances someone needs to prove he is'nt the man not the other way around.