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  • Originally posted by Godsfly View Post
    his title defenses can continue but not his title run........A title run is consecutively defending the belt.

    also another thing is if brook wins he won't even be able to win the belt. the streak is finished because of this ridiculous fight.
    I don't even understand why you guys are trying to argue this point? Total title defenses are what matter. Golovkin's defended his WBA title 16 times now, irregardless of the WBA title being on the line, Golovkin will make his 17th consecutive defense of a MW title, with the WBC & IBF on the line. As far as Golovkin is concerned, he's tried to make fights at SMW 4 different times, so he's not the least concerned with your notion of consecutive title defenses.

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    • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
      regardless of what belts he has, he still is not the middleweight champion


      he still hasn't beaten the
      #2-4 fighters, not even one of them

      whats so significant about defending titles that you never won in the ring in the first place....the whole title reign is one of the worst in recent history

      Who else is a unified champion with 3 belts and only fought for 1?
      I'm going to keep harping on this because people won't leave it alone. Yes Golovkin was elevated to WBA Super Champion, but his win over Lemeiux would of earned him that status anyways. So to say he did'nt earn that in the ring is a bit disingenuous.

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      • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        You can criticize GGG for the guys he hasn't fought, but you can criticize the guys who won't fight GGG more is the funny part of your, & many peoples, stance.

        I understand your stance, but as a guy who's more impartial about GGG than most of the GGG fanboys & GGG haters around these parts these days I think its underplayed how GGG's current resume has more to do with who won't fight him than who he's willing to fight.
        It has a lot to do with guys wanting the big bucks to fight him and his team being cheap just like GGG doing now with wanting big bucks to fight Canelo again him and his team be very hypocritical about things and fans defend it if you want guys to fight you that has a name need to come up with ways to pay for fights greed is now part of boxing guys don't fight to be best most of times now

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        • Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
          I'm going to keep harping on this because people won't leave it alone. Yes Golovkin was elevated to WBA Super Champion, but his win over Lemeiux would of earned him that status anyways. So to say he did'nt earn that in the ring is a bit disingenuous.
          He didn't actually earn a WBA belt.

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          • Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
            I don't even understand why you guys are trying to argue this point? Total title defenses are what matter. Golovkin's defended his WBA title 16 times now, irregardless of the WBA title being on the line, Golovkin will make his 17th consecutive defense of a MW title, with the WBC & IBF on the line. As far as Golovkin is concerned, he's tried to make fights at SMW 4 different times, so he's not the least concerned with your notion of consecutive title defenses.
            Don't you ever get tired of doing mental gymnastics to excuse Golovkin not being a fighter?

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            • Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
              I'm going to keep harping on this because people won't leave it alone. Yes Golovkin was elevated to WBA Super Champion, but his win over Lemeiux would of earned him that status anyways. So to say he did'nt earn that in the ring is a bit disingenuous.
              bro...the ibf is the only one he actually fought for

              Lemieux is was/is around 6-7 no higher than 5 in the rankings...he hasn't beaten the top guys yet so to act like he is the middleweight champion is a joke...he is just a titleholder, no different than keith Thurman at 147 or Loma at 130

              you can have a million belts but if you haven't beat the best in your division, what do they really mean? very little

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              • Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
                I'm going to keep harping on this because people won't leave it alone. Yes Golovkin was elevated to WBA Super Champion, but his win over Lemeiux would of earned him that status anyways. So to say he did'nt earn that in the ring is a bit disingenuous.
                who else do you know that only won one title in the ring, but has 3 in total? its a joke bro...earn it like other fighters have to

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                • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  Yea but thats after the fact. Going into the fight Allen could have won the title. So its not like some of those No Decision fights back in the day where the fighters went in knowing no decision would be announced.

                  The title was on the line & something happened to prevent the fight from moving forward. So I kinda see it as some sort of hybrid draw kinda outcome where neither guy gets a W or L without it being a official D. And I mean a lot of times fights that do end in a NC could have ended in a Technical Draw if enough rounds had taken place.
                  I can see it going both ways. Going into the fight, the title is on the line. But if you lose the fight, you don't get credit for a title defense, and the argument is that you should only get credit if you win. With an incomplete fight, the argument is that it's like it never happened. His first fight with Allen ended by injury before a conclusion could be reached.

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                  • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                    You can criticize GGG for the guys he hasn't fought, but you can criticize the guys who won't fight GGG more is the funny part of your, & many peoples, stance.

                    I understand your stance, but as a guy who's more impartial about GGG than most of the GGG fanboys & GGG haters around these parts these days I think its underplayed how GGG's current resume has more to do with who won't fight him than who he's willing to fight.
                    if the fights never happened, you don't get credit...simple as that

                    has nothing to do with the resume because the fights never happened and to a degree you are right, but its not a good thing. makes him seem like a hypejob and obviously he is the goods...just want to know how good.

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                    • Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
                      I don't even understand why you guys are trying to argue this point? Total title defenses are what matter. Golovkin's defended his WBA title 16 times now, irregardless of the WBA title being on the line, Golovkin will make his 17th consecutive defense of a MW title, with the WBC & IBF on the line. As far as Golovkin is concerned, he's tried to make fights at SMW 4 different times, so he's not the least concerned with your notion of consecutive title defenses.
                      WRONG.

                      The title for which he is alleged to have made 16 consecutive defenses, the WBA title, is NOT on the line. Therefore, NO 17th defense of a MW title can be made in the Brook fight.

                      If the WBC and IBF titles are up for grabs then Bumlovkin will be making his 1st and 2nd defenses respectively of those titles.

                      Please take your head out of your ass...

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