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  • soul_survivor
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    Why can't Haymon...

    unify most of welterweight and light middle? When guys like King and Arum ran the welters and heavies throughout the 80s, 90s and early 00s, with the help of HBO, managed to unify those divisions on multiple occasions.

    So why can't Haymon, possibly the most well financed boxing manager in history do the same? Considering the majority of the top guys in both divisions are signed to him. It took almost 2 years to make Thurman v Porter, Garcia has fought scrubs, Andrade, the Charlos et al are avoiding each other like the plague.

    What's going on?
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    its the al gaymon strategy.fight bums instead of matching up his best fighters at this rate it will be 10 years before his top 147 fighters all fight each other.154 is a mess lara should be fighting the charlos or j rock instead of an espn level fighter like delvin rodriguez.

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    • CaneloMaidana
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      #3
      Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME
      its the al gaymon strategy.fight bums instead of matching up his best fighters at this rate it will be 10 years before his top 147 fighters all fight each other.154 is a mess lara should be fighting the charlos or j rock instead of an espn level fighter like delvin rodriguez.
      Golovkin fan doesn't like bum fights.

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      • KillaCamNZ
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        #4
        Individual alphabet champions generate more money as a total, that a lineal or unified champ will.

        It's all about mass saturation.

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        • soul_survivor
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          #5
          Originally posted by KillaCamNZ
          Individual alphabet champions generate more money as a total, that a lineal or unified champ will.

          It's all about mass saturation.
          Unified title holders still have to pay for the privilege of holding an alphabet title, so the same amount of money is involved. Plus, that isn't a new issue. If we got tournaments for 25+ years to decide undisputed champs, why can't we now?

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          • KillaCamNZ
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            #6
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            Unified title holders still have to pay for the privilege of holding an alphabet title, so the same amount of money is involved. Plus, that isn't a new issue. If we got tournaments for 25+ years to decide undisputed champs, why can't we now?
            I was speaking from the position of volume of fights and associated revenue due to having multiple champs.

            But yes, you're spot on.

            Unfortunately, common sense and quality of fights is secondary to revenue, greed and control these days.

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            • Kigali
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              #7
              Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
              Golovkin fan doesn't like bum fights.
              How ironic.....

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                #8
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                unify most of welterweight and light middle? When guys like King and Arum ran the welters and heavies throughout the 80s, 90s and early 00s, with the help of HBO, managed to unify those divisions on multiple occasions.

                So why can't Haymon, possibly the most well financed boxing manager in history do the same? Considering the majority of the top guys in both divisions are signed to him. It took almost 2 years to make Thurman v Porter, Garcia has fought scrubs, Andrade, the Charlos et al are avoiding each other like the plague.

                What's going on?
                Two of the four belts in the WW division are held by PBC fighters.It's been that way for less than a year. One of their title holders has a mandatory to fulfill. Not only that but his he had a fight scheduled before the other PBC WW won his title. HBO has had their fighters hold three of the 4 MW titles for almost two years and never got a unification. And they allowed two of their fighters to avoid their mandatory and allowed one of them to drop his mandatory.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  Two of the four belts in the WW division are held by PBC fighters.It's been that way for less than a year. One of their title holders has a mandatory to fulfill. Not only that but his he had a fight scheduled before the other PBC WW won his title. HBO has had their fighters hold three of the 4 MW titles for almost two years and never got a unification.
                  ...yet somehow that HBO shill overlooked that.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    unify most of welterweight and light middle? When guys like King and Arum ran the welters and heavies throughout the 80s, 90s and early 00s, with the help of HBO, managed to unify those divisions on multiple occasions.

                    So why can't Haymon, possibly the most well financed boxing manager in history do the same? Considering the majority of the top guys in both divisions are signed to him. It took almost 2 years to make Thurman v Porter, Garcia has fought scrubs, Andrade, the Charlos et al are avoiding each other like the plague.

                    What's going on?
                    It's because he doesn't know the sport of boxing very well. He's still learning it on the job. Bob Arum and Don King has a multitude of experience between the two.

                    For instance, Don King used to put on the best PPV cards back in the day. The were often stacked with at least four championship fights on the same card which didn't include the main event. Moreover, he often used to put on tournaments for HBO in order to unify each division in boxing.

                    What Al need is a good matchmaker. Someone who knows the sport and could give the boxing fans the fights that they want to see. Likewise, he shouldn't be afraid to work with and seek out the expertise of other movers and shakers in the sport of boxing; Including other American boxing promoters as well.

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