Comments Thread For: Golovkin: No Big Fights at 168, I Make 160 Easy - I'm Not Big 160

[Methodical]

Just exposing the truth...........now I'd love to see ho you defend your previous statement.

Dam Batista you just exposed his ass big time. Use facts or get owned like.

[robertzimmerman]

And that would be cool and people would give him a pass on staying at 160 if phuk boy didn't constantly open his fat mouth about fighters WHO DON'T FIGHT AT 160! Like do you get that or not? The reason we talking about this is because starting 4 years ago this lame couldn't get no shine by himself so he started name dropping fighters all of which DON'T fight at 160. Calling out welterweights, super welterweights and super middleweights. Saying he would go to 154 or 168. His chump trainer saying GGG knocks out anyone at 168. He is trying to force fighters to move up in weight to fight him and when they don't calling them cowards. So that's why people are destroying this beyotch when he refuses to do the same thing by moving up to 168. So if all he wants is to fight at 160 then tell him to keep other fighters who have never fought at 160 out his mouth. simple

I agree with you that his team don't do themselves any favours with what they say in the media. That's true. I'm a fan, and sure, his team have a job to do, but we don't need to be hearing comments from GG, Loeffler and Abel ever 2 minutes. I can understand the frustration, especially with all the hype.

[robertzimmerman]

how can they offer a catchweight contract when all year GGG, his trainer and camp did not stop interviews saying we will not go down in weight under any circumstances. Don't make me pull up the interviews to expose you. That's called a non starter when a fighter says flat out we won't drop a single pound. What happened to 154 or 168?

The whole 154-168 thing has been blown out of all proportion.

It was for the right fight, under the right circumstances, not literally for any fight.

Yes, GG made those comments. But that doesn't mean that it was okay for Canelo to demand that their fight had to happen at 155. Circumstances have to be taken into account. Despite what was said, GG was a fellow MW champ with 2 belts, and he was Canelo's mandatory. You can't demand that a fighter has to defend his titles in a huge unification at a CW. It was ridiculous.

Potentially fighting a huge one off mega fight with Floyd at 154 was completely different.

I can't believe that people can justify a ridiculous demand that goes against the rules of boxing, just because of what GG had said a few years ago.

[robertzimmerman]

He doesn't think otherwise. None of them do. They're trolls.

Are they trolls looking for a rise out of people, or are they just idiots who have no concept of the sport?

[bigdunny1]

Have I missed something? Did Canelo offer to fight Golovkin at a catchweight after he handed over his belt?

And if GGG offered a catchweight to Canelo now, I know what your reaction would be - "I thought he only wanted the belt .. lying POS ... why doesn't he pick on somebody his own size ... " .. etc

So now you didn't hear the numerous interviews by Canelo saying he would fight him but at his weight? And now you need a contract offer to see that GGG turned this down? How can you draw up contract offers when the phuk boy and his trainer are right here saying NO TO A CATCHWEIGHT. Direct quote "It's the principle of the thing. [Golovkin] won't come down one ounce." - GGG's trainer

Want one from GGG himself? "There is no chance that [I will go to] 155-pounds for a fight Canelo. I am a fighter, I do not come to do business," Golvokin said. I fight at middleweight or super middleweight. I don't come to fight at 156 or 158, that's just business."

"Middleweight is my best weight,” Golovkin said. “Everybody says Canelo’s this great champion. I saw his last fight. Cotto’s not a real middleweight. Great champion, not a middleweight.”

Oh but who cares what those guys say what does his promoter say he is the one pulling the strings right? Want a direct quote from GGG's promoter? Ok

“In our particular instance against Canelo there wouldn’t be any negotiations about the weight,” Loeffler said to skysports.com

Oh but Canelo and his camp never made it clear what the weight would be if they wanted the fight or that he wasn't a middleweight?

“I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez said via R!ngTV.com. “I’m a super welterweight. That’s my weight class. One thing I’m not going to do; I’m not going to give up any concession or any advantages to GGG,” Canelo said. “I’m in the position where I deserve and I’ve earned my spot. So is the fight going to get made? It’s going to get made. But the conditions have to be right."

“Canelo is not a middleweight," said Eric Gomez, a Golden Boy Promotions executive to The Times. "If Gennady really wants to make the fight, maybe we can talk about some catch-weight where Gennady comes down [in weight] and Canelo goes up, but he’s truly a 154-pounder. If Canelo is giving up weight, Gennady should, too.”


You spending all this time calling Cotto and Canelo middleweights when nobody even the GGG camp is calling them middleweights. And why the F would you need to hear that GGG turned down a contract offer when his entire camp out their own mouths told you they refused to drop weight to make the Canelo fight. I get it when GGG tells you exactly what's going on we shouldn't take them literal (that way you can make up BS excuses when they get caught in lies) but when someone else says something you hold them to their words exactly how they said it? The hold up was the weight and GGG mr 154 or 168 is fraud.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Fact 1 - 4 years ago....GGG quote "I will fight anybody from 154-168"
Fact 2 - Less than half-year GGG quote "I'm not businessman"
Fact 3 - After Wade fight - GGG quote "Kell Brook is too small"
Fact 3 - Less than half-year GGG quote "Canelo vs Khan no respect for boxing"
Fact 4 - A week ago on conference call - GGG quote "Who's @168? Jack? Ramirez? De-Geale? they are not big fights, I want big fights.
Fact 5 - Golovkin has requested anyone who wants to fight him to move up or down to 160, he's critized fighters for doing so but he doesn't feel like he's subjected to the same standard.

Conclusion:
Your boy and his team have put their feet on their mouth, contradicions all over the place year after year, men fans like you just want a man you never met in your life and who doesn't give you a single penny have sucess.

Real Boxing Fans want the biggest fights. IMO Golovkin is not very different than Canelo, both cowards requesting special treatment for them, difference here is that Canelo right now brings big money, and that is a fact too.

You just got OWNED.

#onlythetruth
#fairtreatment

and he has some very good names on his resume, also fought floyd

[robertzimmerman]

When has Canelo fought at 160? Oh never so then yes he is trying to force him to move up. Fighting a catchweight 1 pound over 154. And both gave up the belts because they are not middleweights. So why is GGG is trying to fight him still? Why was he trying to fight Floyd last year and Manny? Why is he fighting Brook? Hint neither of these guys have a belt at 160 or have EVER fought a fight at 160. You know damn well it's not because a belt. The prize is getting a big name fight. Isn't that why this clown just said he won't go up to 168? If it's about a belt go to 168 and grab one instead of dragging Brook up 2 weight classes. Ain't no bigger name fight then Canelo so why won't he move down to make the fight? GGG is a walking contradiction, a liar and coward. Sorry you have to make excuses for his lame @ss.

Stop being biased.

Canelo knew before he even fought Cotto that the winner was obligated to fight GG. If the weight was too much for him (which is BS) all he had to do was to relinquish the belt afterwards like Cotto would have done. Don't try and justify Canelo and Oscar's actions just because the Cotto fight wasn't fought at the limit.

Regarding Brook, I've told you why he's fighting him, and he hasn't dragged him anywhere.

Again, stop kidding yourself into believing that the Canelo fight would be there if GG was willing to go down in weight. The guy's about to fight Liam Smith. What does that say to you?

[robertzimmerman]

you keep bringing up a belt when nobody cares about the belt. GGG can grab everyone vacant and paper belt at 160 and it changes nothing about his legacy and how people view him. And Canelo threw the belt in the trash so there is no mandate of 160. So what's the problem why is GGG still unwilling to go down in weight to fight Canelo? What happened to I'll go to 154 or 168? Didn't he just say no reason to 168 because those aren't big fights so no excuse to not go down since Canelo is the biggest fight possible. But we all know this fraud is a liar.

Canelo dropped the belt to fight Liam Smith, so why on earth are you asking silly questions such as:

"Why is GG still unwilling to go down in weight to fight Canelo?"

Come on man.

[bigdunny1]

Stop being biased.

Canelo knew before he even fought Cotto that the winner was obligated to fight GG. If the weight was too much for him (which is BS) all he had to do was to relinquish the belt afterwards like Cotto would have done. Don't try and justify Canelo and Oscar's actions just because the Cotto fight wasn't fought at the limit.

Regarding Brook, I've told you why he's fighting him, and he hasn't dragged him anywhere.

Again, stop kidding yourself into believing that the Canelo fight would be there if GG was willing to go down in weight. The guy's about to fight Liam Smith. What does that say to you?

Do you think Canelo fought Cotto because he wanted to fight GGG next or anyone else at 160? Hell no. And even GGG and his team has called both Canelo and Cotto "not real middleweights". Why? Because neither have EVER fought at 160 before. Canelo specifically fought 1 lb over 154. The fight WAS never happening at 160. And it's a joke for GGG to demand that when A. he is the B side to Canelo. B. He has at every step of the way REFUSED to move up in weight himself. C. His resume is dog crap

If he wanted the fight NOW he needed to drop weight which he himself said for years he would. If he only wanted it at 160 then you have to wait for Canelo to move up

If he just flat out doesn't want to ever leave 160 I would have no problem with that but the Phuk boy has been running his trap trying to get shine off other fighters names. Name dropping fighters who DON'T fight at 160 for 4 years now. Saying Shyt like I'll go to 154 or 168. Having his joke trainer to this day still saying GGG will KO anyone at 168. Ok then prove it. But when these guys come calling he says well it has to be at a catchweight of 164 or you have to wait until I'm ready to move up. When you play that game you look like a beyatch crying when smaller fighters who have NEVER fought at 160 tell you come down in weight or wait till I move up. If he only wants to fight at 160 then keep fighters above and below 160 out his mouth. Otherwise do what you said you would do and move out 160 to get better fights. He's nobody to be making these demands that everyone come to him.

[robertzimmerman]

Only spin going on is you. NOBODY forced him to fight Brook. And if his joke promoters can't get him fights at 160 then move the F up. What you don't do is spend half the year killing one fighter for not moving up and instead fighting a WW at 155. And then after taking that stand calling him just a business man and not respecting the sport you turn around and do worse because now you dragging a WW up to 160 and a hypocrite to boot. Your explanation he had no choice he had to fight Brook because his fight with Eubank fell apart is lie. And like me saying if I go to a restaurant and they don't have my favorite dish then I can just pull my pants down and take a shyt right there. And my defense is well they didn't have my favorite food what else am I supposed to do. F outta here

Again, no, nobody forced him to fight Brook. But again, walking from the fight would have been nonsensical when everything was set up. Stop debating on emotion and we can have a good debate. Move up to fight who? Why would he have passed up the Brook fight and given up his long standing HBO date with his camp set up, to try and fight someone else? You are being ridiculous.

Again, how has he dragged a WW up? This is becoming so tiresome. Again, he'd signed a contract for Eubank. Brook was literally a last minute replacement that he accepted to salvage the event/date.

Yes, he could have refused Brook. He didn't literally HAVE to face him. But tell me WHY he would have walked? Give me a logical reason as to why he'd have withdrawn from the PPV? Give me some logical options of who he could have faced instead? Your restaurant analogy is terrible.