Comments Thread For: Golovkin: No Big Fights at 168, I Make 160 Easy - I'm Not Big 160

[robertzimmerman]

Why..... ?

Because it is a **** fight, you fool.




ROBERT, stop pretending that 97,000 PPV buys wouldn't generate more than "Quillin money"

ROBERT, stop pretending that Loeffler couldn't simply make that fight anyway

ROBERT, stop pretending they couldn't have simply rung Lara

ROBERT, stop pretending that 97,000 PPV buys wouldn't generate more than the 1.5mil they offered Saunders

ROBERT, stop pretending that Golovkin could not generate more than 97,000 buys in his 2nd PPV attempt, or even closer to the 150k-200k they originally statedi

ROBERT, stop pretending that Golovkin had to meet some divine imaginary date, they could have simply found a better opponent

ROBERT, stop pretending that K2 had to accept an offer from Hearn, they could have simply found a better opponent

ROBERT, stop pretending that Eddie Hearn totally forgot to mention Degale

ROBERT, stop pretending that Tom Loeffler totally forgot to request Degale

ROBERT, stop pretending that Tom Loeffler totally forgot about 168, period

ROBERT, stop pretending that a good SMW opponent would not generate more interest/notoriety - which would lead to a better financial upside - than the doomed welterweight Brook




I answered your question Robert, you fanboi clown




FACT: you are a total fkn moron if you think they had no choice but to select Brook..... seriously how old are you, smarten up dumbass.

The way that you are attempting to convince me that I should be as gullible as you are..... is highly amusing.

What's the point?

You have completely ignored everything I've written in my last few posts.

You keep saying they could have found a better opponent, yet you can't list any names who were viable options.

You can't tell me why it would have been in his best interests to have walked from Brook.

You keep mentioning Lara, even though he fights on a rival network, and he brings absolutely nothing to the table.

You don't even want an objective discussion.

You're just a time waster.

All you want to do is to hate.


Move along.

[aboutfkntime]

What's the point?

You have completely ignored everything I've written in my last few posts.

You keep saying they could have found a better opponent, yet you can't list any names who were viable options.

You can't tell me why it would have been in his best interests to have walked from Brook.

You keep mentioning Lara, even though he fights on a rival network, and he brings absolutely nothing to the table.

You don't even want an objective discussion.

You're just a time waster.

All you want to do is to hate.


Move along.

The point is..... you are a bum-sniffing clown who prefers to stay ****** rather than admit your pacifist girlfriend is avoiding fights that he should be taking.

it's all good, you're not the only one ^^

I have provided you with plenty of names/options, and I have inserted some common-sense into your ******ity..... but you prefer to play dumb, and pretend that they had no choice but to select Brook.

ROBERT, stop pretending that 97,000 PPV buys wouldn't generate more than "Quillin money"

ROBERT, stop pretending that Loeffler couldn't simply make that fight anyway

ROBERT, stop pretending they couldn't have simply rung Lara

ROBERT, stop pretending that 97,000 PPV buys wouldn't generate more than the 1.5mil they offered Saunders

ROBERT, stop pretending that Golovkin could not generate more than 97,000 buys in his 2nd PPV attempt, or even closer to the 150k-200k they originally stated

ROBERT, stop pretending that Golovkin had to meet some divine imaginary date, they could have simply found a better opponent

ROBERT, stop pretending that K2 had to accept an offer from Hearn, they could have simply found a better opponent

ROBERT, stop pretending that Eddie Hearn totally forgot to mention Degale

ROBERT, stop pretending that Tom Loeffler totally forgot to request Degale

ROBERT, stop pretending that Tom Loeffler totally forgot about 168, period

ROBERT, stop pretending that a good SMW opponent would not generate more interest/notoriety - which would lead to a better financial upside - than the doomed welterweight Brook

Your question has well-and-truly been answered fanboii.

[robertzimmerman]

The point is..... you are a bum-sniffing clown who prefers to stay ****** rather than admit your pacifist girlfriend is avoiding fights that he should be taking.

it's all good, you're not the only one ^^

I have provided you with plenty of names/options, and I have inserted some common-sense into your ******ity..... but you prefer to play dumb, and pretend that they had no choice but to select Brook.

ROBERT, stop pretending that 97,000 PPV buys wouldn't generate more than "Quillin money"

ROBERT, stop pretending that Loeffler couldn't simply make that fight anyway

ROBERT, stop pretending they couldn't have simply rung Lara

ROBERT, stop pretending that 97,000 PPV buys wouldn't generate more than the 1.5mil they offered Saunders

ROBERT, stop pretending that Golovkin could not generate more than 97,000 buys in his 2nd PPV attempt, or even closer to the 150k-200k they originally stated

ROBERT, stop pretending that Golovkin had to meet some divine imaginary date, they could have simply found a better opponent

ROBERT, stop pretending that K2 had to accept an offer from Hearn, they could have simply found a better opponent

ROBERT, stop pretending that Eddie Hearn totally forgot to mention Degale

ROBERT, stop pretending that Tom Loeffler totally forgot to request Degale

ROBERT, stop pretending that Tom Loeffler totally forgot about 168, period

ROBERT, stop pretending that a good SMW opponent would not generate more interest/notoriety - which would lead to a better financial upside - than the doomed welterweight Brook

Your question has well-and-truly been answered fanboii.

This is your last chance with me.

It's becoming really tiresome. We can either have an actual debate, or we can just ignore each other.

It's up to you.


Your statements above haven't really answered any of my points. All you've done is ignored what I've written, before going on to repeat yourself.


Once again, Erislandy Lara is a Showtime fighter who fights at JMW. He brings nothing to the table. No title, no money, nothing. Yes, Brook is a **** fight, I agree with you. But for the millionth time, it was a last minute replacement for Eubank. And fighting Brook gives him huge U.K. exposure. He can simply use Brook as a keep busy fight, but one where he gets well paid.

Do you understand the above? Just because he accepted Brook, it doesn't mean that he now has to chase around JMW's. After Brook, his intention will be focused solely on BJS unless he has a mandatory obligation. The other thing to note, is that if he'd swerved Brook to fight someone else such as a mandatory or a low level MW, what would you have said? Probably something like: "Lil g even saw Brook as too much of a threat, so he's facing (insert name) instead, what a coward!"


Regarding the date of September the 10th, HBO had booked that way back in March/April. That's the date which was given to Matchroom and Sky when negotiating the Eubank fight. Matchroom then booked the venue and gave GG a contract to sign. GG then signed it and handed it back in. Then when Eubank Snr's ego went into overdrive, Brook was offered as a replacement at the eleventh hour. Now, did GG HAVE to agree? No. Did he have a gun to his head? No. But again, he had a contract put in front of him for the exact same terms. HBO were happy, K2 were happy, his training camp had been booked, and it was still a huge PPV event in the U.K. Now I've asked you why he'd have walked from that, and all you could muster as a reply, was: "Because it's a **** fight" Sorry, that answer's not good enough. You don't walk away from millions of dollars when you were already down to your 3rd choice of opponent. Nobody would have walked away from that table with everything set up, especially when they didn't have any other viable options. Again, he can just use it as a keep busy fight but one that gives him huge exposure. You don't give up the opportunity to fight at the O2 to TRY and fight a guy like Lara instead, again, who's on a rival network and who offers nothing. I guarantee you you wouldn't have walked in GG's position. Nobody would be that ******.


You say he could fight a SMW that would pay more than Brook. Theoretically, yes. But he couldn't fight a SMW on such short notice when Brook was offered. Again, when Brook was finalised, it was exactly 9 weeks to the day of the weigh-in. For months now, DeGale has been trying to get Jack in the ring to unify. Zurdo Ramirez is out injured. So who else is there at SMW, who could have brought in more money than Brook, at such short notice? There isn't anybody.


You keep arguing that they could have found a better opponent than Brook. Fine. List me the names. Because again, the following fighters weren't available: Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders, Eubank, DeGale and Ramirez. So who?? Again, why give up the HBO date, when he can try and fight one of the guys listed afterwards?


What I've written above is fair.

I am not a fan boy, and I've told you repeatedly that Andre Ward is my current favourite fighter.


You can either come back and answer my specific points, or you can debate/argue with someone else.

The choice is yours. But if you're thinking about copying and pasting what you've already written above, then don't. I won't even bother to read it.

So it's up to you.

You can either have an actual, educated debate, or you can just keep on hating.

[aboutfkntime]

This is your last chance with me.

It's becoming really tiresome. We can either have an actual debate, or we can just ignore each other.

It's up to you.


Your statements above haven't really answered any of my points. All you've done is ignored what I've written, before going on to repeat yourself.


Once again, Erislandy Lara is a Showtime fighter who fights at JMW. He brings nothing to the table. No title, no money, nothing. Yes, Brook is a **** fight, I agree with you. But for the millionth time, it was a last minute replacement for Eubank. And fighting Brook gives him huge U.K. exposure. He can simply use Brook as a keep busy fight, but one where he gets well paid.

Do you understand the above? Just because he accepted Brook, it doesn't mean that he now has to chase around JMW's. After Brook, his intention will be focused solely on BJS unless he has a mandatory obligation. The other thing to note, is that if he'd swerved Brook to fight someone else such as a mandatory or a low level MW, what would you have said? Probably something like: "Lil g even saw Brook as too much of a threat, so he's facing (insert name) instead, what a coward!"


Regarding the date of September the 10th, HBO had booked that way back in March/April. That's the date which was given to Matchroom and Sky when negotiating the Eubank fight. Matchroom then booked the venue and gave GG a contract to sign. GG then signed it and handed it back in. Then when Eubank Snr's ego went into overdrive, Brook was offered as a replacement at the eleventh hour. Now, did GG HAVE to agree? No. Did he have a gun to his head? No. But again, he had a contract put in front of him for the exact same terms. HBO were happy, K2 were happy, his training camp had been booked, and it was still a huge PPV event in the U.K. Now I've asked you why he'd have walked from that, and all you could muster as a reply, was: "Because it's a **** fight" Sorry, that answer's not good enough. You don't walk away from millions of dollars when you were already down to your 3rd choice of opponent. Nobody would have walked away from that table with everything set up, especially when they didn't have any other viable options. Again, he can just use it as a keep busy fight but one that gives him huge exposure. You don't give up the opportunity to fight at the O2 to TRY and fight a guy like Lara instead, again, who's on a rival network and who offers nothing. I guarantee you you wouldn't have walked in GG's position. Nobody would be that ******.


You say he could fight a SMW that would pay more than Brook. Theoretically, yes. But he couldn't fight a SMW on such short notice when Brook was offered. Again, when Brook was finalised, it was exactly 9 weeks to the day of the weigh-in. For months now, DeGale has been trying to get Jack in the ring to unify. Zurdo Ramirez is out injured. So who else is there at SMW, who could have brought in more money than Brook, at such short notice? There isn't anybody.


You keep arguing that they could have found a better opponent than Brook. Fine. List me the names. Because again, the following fighters weren't available: Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders, Eubank, DeGale and Ramirez. So who?? Again, why give up the HBO date, when he can try and fight one of the guys listed afterwards?


What I've written above is fair.

I am not a fan boy, and I've told you repeatedly that Andre Ward is my current favourite fighter.


You can either come back and answer my specific points, or you can debate/argue with someone else.

The choice is yours. But if you're thinking about copying and pasting what you've already written above, then don't. I won't even bother to read it.

So it's up to you.

You can either have an actual, educated debate, or you can just keep on hating.

Don't waste your time..... we have already been there, done that.

Your gullible ass just ignored 11 FACTS that simply cannot be ignored.

Let's find out what we are REALLY dealing with here, Mr " Ward fan "

In your opinion, did Golovkin avoid Andre Ward..... ?

[robertzimmerman]

Don't waste your time..... we have already been there, done that.

Your gullible ass just ignored 11 FACTS that simply cannot be ignored.

Let's find out what we are REALLY dealing with here, Mr " Ward fan "

In your opinion, did Golovkin avoid Andre Ward..... ?

Pathetic.

What you mean is, you can't refute what I've written.

What a joke you are.


Yes, GG wanted no part of Andre last year. But I don't believe for a second that Andre really wanted GG either. He'd been inactive and he's just said he can't make 168 anymore. The fight simply wasn't viable.


I'd check your so called facts before you embarrass yourself any further. If that's possible.

[aboutfkntime]

Pathetic.

What you mean is, you can't refute what I've written.

What a joke you are.


Yes, GG wanted no part of Andre last year. But I don't believe for a second that Andre really wanted GG either. He'd been inactive and he's just said he can't make 168 anymore. The fight simply wasn't viable.


I'd check your so called facts before you embarrass yourself any further. If that's possible.

with " fans " like you, who needs enemies

you are not a wanker for taking it upon yourself to wildly claim that Andre Ward could not make 168 back in May 2015, because how the fk would you know you excuse-making clown..... the reason why you are a wanker is for stating that you are Ward fan LMAO

fk you noddy

[robertzimmerman]

with " fans " like you, who needs enemies

you are not a wanker for taking it upon yourself to wildly claim that Andre Ward could not make 168 back in May 2015, because how the fk would you know you excuse-making clown..... the reason why you are a wanker is for stating that you are Ward fan LMAO

fk you noddy

That's all you've got?

Seriously?

You couldn't reply with anything better than that?


Well then **** OFF you pathetic child.

Don't ever quote me again.


TRAGIC.

[aboutfkntime]

That's all you've got?

Seriously?

You couldn't reply with anything better than that?


Well then **** OFF you pathetic child.

Don't ever quote me again.


TRAGIC.

happy that this meaningful debate came to a peaceful conclusion

you are an utter tool if you think they had no choice but to fight Brook

a golov-tool, to be exact

[robertzimmerman]

happy that this meaningful debate came to a peaceful conclusion

you are an utter tool if you think they had no choice but to fight Brook

a golov-tool, to be exact

I said he didn't have to agree to Brook.

I said he didn't have a gun to his head.

Obviously you can't read you illiterate ****!


He didn't have to take it. But again, it would have been foolish to have turned down a big U.K. PPV fight when he didn't have any other viable options.


Now go and kill yourself you pathetic wanker.

[aboutfkntime]

I said he didn't have to agree to Brook.

I said he didn't have a gun to his head.

Excellent !

That is all you needed to say Robert.

We are now in complete agreement.

I must have missed that comment originally. most likely because it was hidden underneath all of those weak excuses.

It is most definitely time that supposed adults hold a grown man responsible for his words/actions..... I will keep fighting the good fight.