Why is the MW division considered a "weak" division?

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  • cork
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    #81
    Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
    And the champ before him was washed up Sam Soliman. When a C level guy like David Lemieux is carrying around a title, then yea, your division is weak.
    Liam Smith have a title. Vargas have a title. Felix strum is still a champ. what does it say about the other division?

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      #82
      Originally posted by cork
      Liam Smith have a title. Vargas have a title. Felix strum is still a champ. what does it say about the other division?
      Smith has a title cause Andrade was stripped. Vargas has a title cause Bradley was stripped. (It would be Mannys belt right now if he wasn't) 160 is shlt

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        #83
        Originally posted by HanzGruber
        Smith has a title cause Andrade was stripped. Vargas has a title cause Bradley was stripped. (It would be Mannys belt right now if he wasn't) 160 is shlt
        I don't care about the circumstance, they still have titles. Ricky Burn have a damn title. Just because one guy is clearly above the rest doesn't make the whole division ****. GGG would make all the 154 and 168 lbers look like ****.

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          #84
          Originally posted by HanzGruber
          Smith has a title cause Andrade was stripped. Vargas has a title cause Bradley was stripped. (It would be Mannys belt right now if he wasn't) 160 is shlt
          Didn't Lemieux win a vacant title? You cant excuse one fighter, or two, for winning vacant titles, then complain about a fighter winning a vacant title. You cant have it both ways.

          My thoughts on the topic at hand. I think its a mix of some people's dislike for GGG combined with the fact that GGG is that much better than the competition, that makes people say the MW division is weak. Golovkin makes the other contenders look ordinary. They say the 154 division is stacked with talent. If 160 is so weak, why wouldn't one or two if the top guys move up and take advantage of the weak division?

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            #85
            Originally posted by cork
            I don't care about the circumstance, they still have titles. Ricky Burn have a damn title. Just because one guy is clearly above the rest doesn't make the whole division ****. GGG would make all the 154 and 168 lbers look like ****.
            Lol wtf you mean you don't care about the circumstances. They have titles cause the really good guy dropped it so they got to slide in and pick it up. It's not like smith is the top dog at 154 or Vargas at 147. They're not even top 3

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              #86
              Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
              Didn't Lemieux win a vacant title? You cant excuse one fighter, or two, for winning vacant titles, then complain about a fighter winning a vacant title. You cant have it both ways.

              My thoughts on the topic at hand. I think its a mix of some people's dislike for GGG combined with the fact that GGG is that much better than the competition, that makes people say the MW division is weak. Golovkin makes the other contenders look ordinary. They say the 154 division is stacked with talent. If 160 is so weak, why wouldn't one or two if the top guys move up and take advantage of the weak division?
              I'm not trying to have anything both ways.. He's saying smith having a title means 154 is supposedly weak I guess but he's not even top 3 probably not top 5.

              Pretty sure the best 154 pounder has called out ggg. The other guys don't need to move just cause 160 is weak. That makes no sense. Not like I said gg is weak
              Last edited by HanzGruber; 08-24-2016, 07:36 PM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Jubei
                Because a Kazakh fighter is dominating the division like it never got dominated before. Butthurt racist fans, mostly biased American fans are the people who say that.
                yes MW seem weak because there is a monster GGG as the champ

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by HanzGruber
                  I'm not trying to have anything both ways.. He's saying smith having a title means 154 is supposedly weak I guess but he's not even top 3 probably not top 5.

                  Pretty sure he best 154 pounder has called out canelo. The other guys don't need to move just cause 160 is weak. That makes no sense. Not like I said gg is weak
                  I see my error. Scrolling too fast, I thought you made the comment that Kagami Taiga made about Lemieux being a C class fighter and having a belt. I see now that you only responded to cork, responding to Taiga.

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                  • cork
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by HanzGruber
                    I'm not trying to have anything both ways.. He's saying smith having a title means 154 is supposedly weak I guess but he's not even top 3 probably not top 5.

                    Pretty sure the best 154 pounder has called out ggg. The other guys don't need to move just cause 160 is weak. That makes no sense. Not like I said gg is weak
                    I was responding to taiga who said just because fighter got a title mean it's a weak division. It's a ****** arguement because every division have crap belt holders.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by nacho daddy
                      yes MW seem weak because there is a monster GGG as the champ
                      And who is this monster beating?

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