Why is the MW division considered a "weak" division?

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  • Raggamuffin
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    #91
    Originally posted by Jubei
    Because a Kazakh fighter is dominating the division like it never got dominated before. Butthurt racist fans, mostly biased American fans are the people who say that.
    So basically the rest of the world is ok with who GG is fighting and beating except butthurt racists and Americans. Gotcha!

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    • Boxfan83
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      #92
      Originally posted by HanzGruber
      Lol wtf you mean you don't care about the circumstances. They have titles cause the really good guy dropped it so they got to slide in and pick it up. It's not like smith is the top dog at 154 or Vargas at 147. They're not even top 3
      IDK about that man I think Vargas gets ****ted on by most. In all reality Garcia is only champ because Floyd vacated. Thurman was only moved up to Super champ because Floyd vacated and the WBO's was Floyds too. Spence will probably be fighting for a vacant IBF title but I doubt you would call any of them weak, I wonder why tho?..

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      • GGG Gloveking
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        #93
        Originally posted by HanzGruber

        Pretty sure the best 154 pounder has called out ggg.
        When did Charlo call out Golovkin?

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        • HanzGruber
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          #94
          Originally posted by Boxfan83
          IDK about that man I think Vargas gets ****ted on by most. In all reality Garcia is only champ because Floyd vacated. Thurman was only moved up to Super champ because Floyd vacated and the WBO's was Floyds too. Spence will probably be fighting for a vacant IBF title but I doubt you would call any of them weak, I wonder why tho?..
          And Vargas is only champ cause Bradley vacated.. I never said it was weak cause gg has 3 of the belts. It's just weak flat out

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            #95
            Originally posted by Boxfan83
            IDK about that man I think Vargas gets ****ted on by most. In all reality Garcia is only champ because Floyd vacated. Thurman was only moved up to Super champ because Floyd vacated and the WBO's was Floyds too. Spence will probably be fighting for a vacant IBF title but I doubt you would call any of them weak, I wonder why tho?..
            Vargas doesn't get ****ted on, Floyd retired, nobody cares about Thurman being called super champion and Spence doesn't deserve a title shot. The welterweight division today:

            1. Keith Thurman
            2. Kell Brook
            3. Danny Garcia
            4. Timothy Bradley
            5. Jessie Vargas
            6. Shawn Porter
            7. Errol Spence
            8. Amir Khan
            9. Marcos Maidana
            10. Devon Alexander
            11.David Avanesyan
            12. Robert Guerrero
            13. Sadam Ali
            14. Andre Berto
            15. Jose Benavidez
            16. Jeff Horn

            The Middleweight division today:

            1. Gennady Golovkin
            2. Canelo Alvarez
            3. Daniel Jacobs
            3. Billy Joe Saunders
            4. David Lemieux
            5. Andy Lee
            6. Peter Quillin
            7. Chris Eubank Jr
            8. Ryota Murata
            9. Curtis Stevens
            10. Hassan N’Dam
            11. Ievgen Khytrov
            12. Sam Soliman
            13. Daniel Geale
            14. Tureano Johnson
            15. Dominic Wade
            16. Andrew Hernandez

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            • Kagami Taiga
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              #96
              Originally posted by cork
              I was responding to taiga who said just because fighter got a title mean it's a weak division. It's a ****** arguement because every division have crap belt holders.
              Well yes that alone doesn't make it a weak division. But let's not act like circumstance doesn't matter. Lemieux was a legit top 3 guy at MW when he got his title. Both Taylor and Soliman won their titles in legit fights. Vargas gets a lot of ****, but he wasn't a top 5 WW. Neither was Smith. Those guys are considered the fringe titlists at best. Lemieux was a top 3 or 4 guy wheh he won his title. And the only guys that would have ranked above him were Golovkin, Cotto and maybe Jacobs. So maybe I should change it to, "When you have a C level guy like Lemieux in your top 5, then yea your division is weak."

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                #97
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                So when De La Hoya fought Shane Mosley (a LW) was the WW division weak at the time? No arguing just wondering...
                Yep. Pretty much

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                • KingHippo
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by cork
                  I don't care about the circumstance, they still have titles. Ricky Burn have a damn title. Just because one guy is clearly above the rest doesn't make the whole division ****. GGG would make all the 154 and 168 lbers look like ****.
                  Callum Smith would beat Golovkin and he's only a fringe contender.

                  Martin Murray, GGG's best win lost against Abraham and Groves, two fringe contenders at 168.

                  Jacobs would get murdered by Dirrell. Billy Joe Saunders would get embarrassed by Andrade and outboxed by Lara.

                  Any top 10 super middleweight beats everyone at 160 not named GGG.

                  All scrubs I tell ya'.

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                  • animelive
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by KingHippo
                    Callum Smith would beat Golovkin and he's only a fringe contender.

                    Martin Murray, GGG's best win lost against Abraham and Groves, two fringe contenders at 168.

                    Jacobs would get murdered by Dirrell. Billy Joe Saunders would get embarrassed by Andrade and outboxed by Lara.

                    Any top 10 super middleweight beats everyone at 160 not named GGG.

                    All scrubs I tell ya'.
                    I don't understand the Lara **** sucking in this forum. Whenever people **** on other's resume and fall back to Lara, I just assume he is a moron considering 2 draws and 2 losses in 154. If Lara can outwit a MW, why doesn't he grow a pair and go up weight? Fight and earn his title shot? You know why? Because he will probably get demolished by Wade even

                    And big deal, MWs will lose to SMWs. Good work, Holmes. Who would have known. There is something about GGG which seems to turn a lot of people in this forum into ******s.
                    Last edited by animelive; 08-25-2016, 04:26 AM.

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                    • HEND
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                      #100
                      Compare the MW top 10 with the top 10s of 154, 147, 130, 126, 175 or even 190 and HW and you will see

                      BJS sucks ass, let's not lump him here

                      Canelo has a fight coming up in 154 as far as I know, not in 160, officially he is not a MW

                      GGG, Jacobs, that's all you got in MW from quality fighters. There are some nice talents there on the come up but they are not there yet so MW stys weak

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