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  • #21
    I actually think the MW division gives the impression of being weak because:

    1. The top MW is so far ahead of the rest that he makes the others look bad;
    2. The others are so s*** scared of the no. 1 that it magnifies the lack of talent.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
      I agree with you bro to an extent but in all reality the same can be said about 50-75% of every boxing division. Does 154 suck because none of them have faced each other? How about 147? None of them have, the only one trying to unify in 147 or taking a dangerous fight is Jessie Vargas but hes supposedly the lowest hanging fruit, Im assuming now its because he has the biggest cajones....
      Well at 154, Lara's beaten Trout and basically drew with Canelo (no clear winner no matter how people try to spin it). Then he's beaten the guys he was supposed to: Angulo, Paul Williams, Vanes, etc. So we know what he's made of.

      Andrade beat Vanes and looks to be fighting Charlo. Charlo is fighting J Rock. There just seems to be more progress and a willingness for these guys to unify.

      Now let's look at Billy Hoe Saunders. He passed up GGG, Jacobs, Monroe, Stevens AND Rosado. He hasn't made a title defense since DECEMBER.

      Danny Jacobs...Wants like $10 million and pretends that his WBA participation ribbon is an actual belt. He's fighting SERGIO MORA.

      You tell me main man. Why should I respect this division as legit? It's like the laughiing stock of boxing right now. The lineal title was just defended against Amir Khan.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Kagami Taiga View Post
        Probably John "The Beast" Mugabi.
        And Mugabi still went up in weight from 154. Remember I said test(s).....you only mentioned one. Who else please?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
          There is Canelo, Saunders, GGG, & Jacobs in that division but i constantly hear its a weak division. Its hard to find other divisions with as many top names and skills as the guys I mentioned if any tbh. Thoughts?
          It's not weak. It's just mediocre. If you make a list of the top 25 fighters in the sport only Golovkin would be on that list from the MW division, unless you count Brook but you'd be using his accomplishments from the WW division. If Lara, Jermall Charlo, J-Rock, and Canleo all moved up to Middleweight they'd immediately be ranked ahead of anyone in the division besides Golovkin. Super middleweight is a weak divison. I wouldn't put any of them in the top 30 list.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
            There is Canelo, Saunders, GGG, & Jacobs in that division but i constantly hear its a weak division. Its hard to find other divisions with as many top names and skills as the guys I mentioned if any tbh. Thoughts?
            It is a weak division because those guys aren't fighting each other and they are beating inferior comp. Some might say the only reason they think that MW is weak because they think GG is at the top. Trying to fall back on his color as to why some they think that he's hated. GG isn't hated. He isn't even the lineal MW champion yet. The division is weak and it wouldn't matter if Robinson, Monzon, Hagler, or Hopkins were at the top.

            Boxing fans are like if they don't want to fight you GG move up. He doesn't have to move up but he's also 34 years old. How much longer does he have in this sport?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by -PBP- View Post
              Because none of those fighters have fought each other and they all have crap resumes. How do we know if Canelo is a good middleweight or if Billy Hoe Saunders and Danny Jacobs are anything more than mid-tier contenders? It's all speculation.

              My theory, is that none of them want to fight GGG, because they suck. And since they suck, they want to get paid a gazillion dollars, before another average fighter, proves how much they suck, for a much lesser price tag.

              A bunch of fighters that suck = a weak division.
              Translation: " I HATE YOU GGG "

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
                And Mugabi still went up in weight from 154. Remember I said test(s).....you only mentioned one. Who else please?
                Ok, your point being? Brook isn't a 154lber either. Then there was Tommy Hearns. Also not a 147lber when Hagler fought him.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
                  I'm not so sure. You got like 6 divisions that are relatively stacked, but everywhere else I just don't see it. 115, 130,147 and 175 are the only divisions off the top of my head that I would consider them having two or more elite fighters. Tons of talent swimming around, but most hav't proven anything. A level to me just means your skill set, elite to me means you have proven it.

                  With that said, middleweight is an ok division that would be highly competitive if it was'nt for GGG. Its not great but it also is'nt trash like some would like us to believe.
                  That's fair enough, I was including the young up and comers when I said each division has elite guys, guys like Oscar Valdez, Spence probably aren't considered elite by most people right now, but everybody knows they will be. The problem at middleweight is we don't have guys coming up who make you say 'wow, he's one to keep an eye on'. From top to bottom, I think the division is the weakest it's been for a long time.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    It's not weak. It's just mediocre. If you make a list of the top 25 fighters in the sport only Golovkin would be on that list from the MW division, unless you count Brook but you'd be using his accomplishments from the WW division. If Lara, Jermall Charlo, J-Rock, and Canleo all moved up to Middleweight they'd immediately be ranked ahead of anyone in the division besides Golovkin. Super middleweight is a weak divison. I wouldn't put any of them in the top 30 list.
                    Not because I am afraid you will drop facts on me but good reasonable answer!! lol

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by John Locke View Post
                      That's fair enough, I was including the young up and comers when I said each division has elite guys, guys like Oscar Valdez, Spence probably aren't considered elite by most people right now, but everybody knows they will be. The problem at middleweight is we don't have guys coming up who make you say 'wow, he's one to keep an eye on'. From top to bottom, I think the division is the weakest it's been for a long time.
                      Hey we finally agree on something!!! hahaha

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