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  • GGG Gloveking
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    #31
    Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
    How many points has Ward had deducted?
    To my knowledge, 3. One point taken against Berrera and two points taken against Rodriguez.

    How many has GGG had?

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    • Mr. Luthor
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      #32
      Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
      I wonder how many times we have to repeat this friend? Scribes are constantly after him for interviews. What's he to say? "Oh I doubt my guy Kov beats Ward, but hey we gotta do this fight, so..."



      Exactly. Glad to see a few fans bring up this reality... although I think Ward's better than some think he is. But no worries, we'll find out soon enough. I just hope like he!! it isn't some lame ref allowing a Ward hug n' headbutt fest all night long.



      Yep



      So, friend, you're ok with dirty fighters?



      Ward takes punches every fight. Especially uppercuts and other counters. He'll definitely get a wakeup call soon enough vs Kov.



      I just hope Ward gets a wakeup call and gets deducted points for that b.s. If you can't win a fight fair and square, IMO you haven't won the fight. I don't care what the official results say.
      So you claim Ward is a dirty fighter because he and his opponent both had points deducted? You claim Ward is a dirty fighter but apparently the referees and official judges of his 30 professional fights did not agree with your opinion.

      Foolish and ridiculous to underrate any boxer that hasn't lost an amateur or pro fight in 20 years, is an Olympic Gold medalist, undefeated in 30 professional fights and is a former unified and Lineal World Champion.

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      • Mr. Luthor
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        #33
        Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
        To my knowledge, 3. One point taken against Berrera and two points taken against Rodriguez.

        How many has GGG had?
        I don't know but I do know that having 3 points deducted in a 30 fight professional career......isn't really worth talking about.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
          That's interesting because Jack Reiss was the referee when Ward beat Kessler and Jack Reiss was the referee when Ward had points deducted when beating Rodriguez.
          Reiss deducted 2 points from BOTH Rodriguez and Ward when Ward was repeatedly fouling in that fight.

          He would NEVER deduct a point against Ward and not the other guy.

          He had to do something in the Rodriguez fight, because he knew otherwise he would look very bad.
          In which fight was Reiss crooked and has Reiss been crooked in the other 500+ fights he has refereed? And if he was crooked, does that include the numerous Golovkin victories he has refereed?
          Golovkin is a CLEAN fighter, he doesn't need to resort to illegal tactics like Ward, because Gennady is genuinely talented. So the referee is less important.

          Reiss has been shady in numerous fights, and he has a big ego (likes to be the center of attention). He tried to help Arreola against Adamek, but Adamek won anyway.
          Last edited by The Hammer; 08-23-2016, 03:16 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
            I don't know but I do know that having 3 points deducted in a 30 fight professional career......isn't really worth talking about.
            Then why are you talking about it? Why did you quote me and ask me a question about something that "isn't really worth talking about"? And since you "don't know" hiw many points Golovkin has had deducted, and seemingly dont want to do quick research to find out, let me tell you. The answer is none, zero. That's a clean fighter. Not one who has had points deducted for low blows. Not one that has committed unsportsmanlike conduct in the ring. And your defense of Ward being dirty: well, the other guy was dirty too. That doesnt mean Ward is any cleaner. That doesnt mean he doesnt lead with his forehead and clinch a lot. Ward is not a clean boxer

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
              I don't know but I do know that having 3 points deducted in a 30 fight professional career......isn't really worth talking about.
              Here's some quick stats. In over 30 fights, Golovkin has had 0 points deducted. In 30 fights, Kovalev has had 0 points deducted. In 29 fights, Adonis Stevenson has had 0 points deducted. In about 30 fights, Billy Joe Saunders has had 0 points deducted. In about 50 fights, Canelo has had one (1) point deducted.

              My challenge to you is to find a fighter with more points deducted than Andre Ward.

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              • r1onnie2
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                #37
                Originally posted by -PBP-
                John David Jackson talking a lot of ****. Like he's the one getting into the ring.
                Exactly, he runs his mouth like a female.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
                  ....and Ward landed 225 total punches to Kessler's 125 AND Ward landed 132 power punches to Kessler's 47. Very hard to clinch and punch at the same time.

                  Both Rodriguez and Ward were deducted points in that fight.

                  The whole story.
                  Don't waste you time, people are always going to biased and not look at all the facts. They see and hear what they want to and nothing will change that.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
                    Lol ts funny he keeps bringing up andres lack of power, that will not be the deciding factor in this fight
                    That seems to be JDJ only hope is that Ward has no power and Kovalev can walkthrough him. Because if he can't knock Ward out, he's not out boxing Ward. If he can't get to Ward with his power, what is Plan B or C? I don't think they have a plan other than they think Ward has no power and they will knock him out.

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                    • j0zef
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                      #40
                      Don't think power is gonna matter at all. If Ward is strong enough to fight in a clinch/inside like he did @ SMW, that's all he'll needs in the strength/power department.

                      I think the actual factors will be completely different.

                      Can Kovalev fight inside or dictate his own tempo?
                      Can Kovalev land a few flush shots.. and if yes --
                      Can Ward's chin hold up against legit LHW power?

                      Even Floyd, who's a better defensive fighter than Ward, absorbed some flush shots. If Kovalev lands a few shots that Pac and Maidana landed on Floyd, can Ward's chin hold up?

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