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  • Motofan
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    #41
    Reading past the headline (actually reading the article) he is right on a few things. Sure Hopkins was old, well past his best, but he was still winning against good fighters and many on here who can't see past skin color were predicting Hopkins v Pavlik all over again. Shouting it from the rooftops. Many youtube channels and boxing experts were picking Hopkins to do it again. Hopkins was and is a much bigger name than Ward is or probably will ever be. That fight showed that Kovalev wasn't just a simple puncher. He had skills. He had to or Hopkins would have humiliated him. Now Ward is the bigger test, in that he is closer to his prime (still past it) and undefeated, but let's not act like everyone thought Kovalev was just going to ruin Hopkins the way he did. Don't play revisionist history.

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #42
      Originally posted by NYC8224
      Ward will be too busy countering Kovalev to worry about his power imo
      kovalevs just got to get stuck in to him early, dont worry about losing the first few rounds. hit the body, hit the head, wards not been in tough fights for years and wont know how to handle it. and if ward starts fouling, ****ing foul him back, dont do a kessler and let him get away with it. smack him on the break if you have to

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      • NYC8224
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        #43
        Originally posted by bigdramashow
        kovalevs just got to get stuck in to him early, dont worry about losing the first few rounds. hit the body, hit the head, wards not been in tough fights for years and wont know how to handle it. and if ward starts fouling, ****ing foul him back, dont do a kessler and let him get away with it. smack him on the break if you have to
        I hear you dude, hopefully it's a good fight, we finally have two top guys fighing each other.

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          #44
          Originally posted by bigdramashow
          he beat the crap out of hopkins over 12. although i dont like him i dont think wards got that toughness bernard has. he was ill against chilemba and he still won easy. wards never fought a puncher like kovalev.
          So what...the Hopkins was 50.

          Stop making excuses about him being ill against his stablemate Chillemba.

          Ward has more punchers on his list than Kovalev.

          Duva won't put Kova in with anybody that can pop.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Motofan
            Reading past the headline (actually reading the article) he is right on a few things. Sure Hopkins was old, well past his best, but he was still winning against good fighters and many on here who can't see past skin color were predicting Hopkins v Pavlik all over again. Shouting it from the rooftops. Many youtube channels and boxing experts were picking Hopkins to do it again. Hopkins was and is a much bigger name than Ward is or probably will ever be. That fight showed that Kovalev wasn't just a simple puncher. He had skills. He had to or Hopkins would have humiliated him. Now Ward is the bigger test, in that he is closer to his prime (still past it) and undefeated, but let's not act like everyone thought Kovalev was just going to ruin Hopkins the way he did. Don't play revisionist history.
            People were picking Hopkins to win not because Hopkins is so good but because they were not impressed with Kovalev.

            B-Pops has 0 offense at this stage of his career.

            Ward ain't no 50 year old featherduster.

            Chillemba was jabbing the melodium out of Kovalev...if he had any power he'd be fighting Ward instead.

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              #46
              Originally posted by NYC8224
              I hear you dude, hopefully it's a good fight, we finally have two top guys fighing each other.
              yeah, fingers crossed its a good one, boxing needs one of these superfights to deliver

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                #47
                Originally posted by Kigali
                So what...the Hopkins was 50.

                Stop making excuses about him being ill against his stablemate Chillemba.

                Ward has more punchers on his list than Kovalev.

                Duva won't put Kova in with anybody that can pop.
                loads of people were picking hopkins to beat him. ward is slippery i will give him that, but kovalevs going to get to him sooner or later. just hope he doesnt waste any time and try to box him, and the most important thing is that he doesnt let ward foul him, cause that is what wards plan is going to be, believe me.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
                  yes he did, in the first round he knocked hopkins down
                  Lol i already triggered 3 people to point out to me my mistake. I meant K-out.

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                  • Motofan
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Johnny_Roa
                    Lol i already triggered 3 people to point out to me my mistake. I meant K-out.
                    Come on man. He clearly carried Hopkins out of respect (has more or less just said that) until Hopkins stuck his tongue out at him in the 12th round. He then beat the remainder of Hopkins good years out of him. Hopkins was battered BADLY. Also, you have to credit Hopkins. He was a great that was known for taking a good shot and knew how to survive. I'm just saying had Kovalev went at him earlier like he did in the 12th there is zero possibility IMO of Hopkins surviving the fight. Plus, Hopkins stopped trying to win after getting dropped in the first. A crafty Bhop whose entire focus is not getting stopped won't be stopped easily.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Motofan
                      Come on man. He clearly carried Hopkins out of respect (has more or less just said that) until Hopkins stuck his tongue out at him in the 12th round. He then beat the remainder of Hopkins good years out of him. Hopkins was battered BADLY. Also, you have to credit Hopkins. He was a great that was known for taking a good shot and knew how to survive. I'm just saying had Kovalev went at him earlier like he did in the 12th there is zero possibility IMO of Hopkins surviving the fight. Plus, Hopkins stopped trying to win after getting dropped in the first. A crafty Bhop whose entire focus is not getting stopped won't be stopped easily.
                      Stop it....just stop it.

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