Comments Thread For: 30 Day Weights: Gennady Golovkin 165, Kell Brook 176!

[Tomjas]

You are dreaming if you think that Jacobs will fight Golovkin for less than half what Brook got paid.

That fight will never happen, and neither will Golovkin/Saunders.

You get what you pay for.

And you are dreaming if you that the largely-untested relatively-unknown welterweight Kell Brook, can generate THREE TIMES more than Saunders/Jacobs..... that is utter nonsense.

Kell Brook will be handsomely rewarded, because Golovkin actually wants to fight him..... not for any other reason.

The fact that you dont want to admit the reality of the situation and so keep posting the same **** over and over and over again is the thing that is nonsensical.

Fact: Hearn is arguably the biggest promoter in the world right now and his relationship with Sky makes it possible to pay fighters massive purses e.g. Martin got $5 million to fight Joshua

Fact: in comparison to Hearn, the promoters of Saunders and Jacobs literally bring nothing to the table so the purses are exponentially lower

Fact: neither Saunders nor Jacobs are remotely interested in fighting GGG and have said so themselves

[SteveM]

You are dreaming if you think that Jacobs will fight Golovkin for less than half what Brook got paid.

That fight will never happen, and neither will Golovkin/Saunders.

You get what you pay for.

And you are dreaming if you that the largely-untested relatively-unknown welterweight Kell Brook, can generate THREE TIMES more than Saunders/Jacobs..... that is utter nonsense.

Kell Brook will be handsomely rewarded, because Golovkin actually wants to fight him..... not for any other reason.

I don't dream about fights. Maybe that is one of the pre-requisites of being a true hardcore fan. But ,,,,, I can distinguish dreams from reality. You have to think that the reason that Brook is making close to 3 times Jacob's highest ever purse is because the fight will generate 3 times as much as Jacobs/Quillen generated. And it's REAL. It IS NOT A DREAM.

Now if Jacobs and Saunders want that kind of money or dream of that kind of money, that is all well and good. Nothing wrong with dreaming - we all do it - it's free entertainment and creates nice warm fuzzy feelings. But a realist will consider why Brook is getting $4 million [or Eubank could have got] and more importantly how Jacobs or Suanders will be able to realise a $4 million purse.

I.E .... who is capable of paying that amount and under what circumstances that promoter would be willing to pay that money.

If you do that you should quickly realize that the Brook situation has unique circumstances.

a/ Brook is well known in the UK and the fight will be made and shown in the UK
b/ Brook is with Hearn and Hearn is with Sky ppv.
c/ The boxing scene in the UK right now is unique. Many casuals and semi-hardcore fans willing to shell out for fights.
d/ Casual fans love to see strange matchups - so ww jumping to fight mw monster is an easy sell.

None of these apply to Jacobs or Saunders except a/ for Saunders.

[SteveM]

You'd be surprised at how ****** he is willing to make himself look for the sake of his agenda.

BTW, Jacobs is getting 500k for fighting Mora yet some on here would have you believe that K2 low-balled him by offering $1.5 million

Definition of 'willfully ignorant' >>> Using a mechanism that actually protects the brain from becoming unable to function in situations that it just can’t handle.

[aboutfkntime]

Take your ADHD pills and learn to multi quote instead of posting 10 times in a row with the same ****** stuff you always say.

Is it wrong to think Brook is probably a natural 154 pounder who boils down to 147? Nope. It's likely the reality based on his size and weight. Does that imply this fight isn't a massive mismatch? Obviously not, especially when all my posts call this fight exactly that (a pointless mismatch) and saying how ****** it is for Brook to go immediately into a Golovkin fight at middleweight without at least fighting at 154 and/or fighting lower level middleweights first. But of course your ADD ass can't focus on everything else I said so instead you can only focus on one line. Not even a why you bring up Canelo since he literally was the WBC and lineal middleweight champion with Golovkin as his mandatory.

Take your chill pills man, stop spamming threads. Take your time to read posts so you can digest it all and actually comprehend it, I know it's difficult with your condition and reading impairments but you can so it buddy.

Oki, fair enough.

A number of pull-hards are attempting to justify that fight.

I mistook the..... Brook "probably could make a permanent transition into middleweight, if he truly wanted to"..... comment.

[aboutfkntime]

The fact that you dont want to admit the reality of the situation and so keep posting the same **** over and over and over again is the thing that is nonsensical.

Fact: Hearn is arguably the biggest promoter in the world right now and his relationship with Sky makes it possible to pay fighters massive purses e.g. Martin got $5 million to fight Joshua

Fact: in comparison to Hearn, the promoters of Saunders and Jacobs literally bring nothing to the table so the purses are exponentially lower

Fact: neither Saunders nor Jacobs are remotely interested in fighting GGG and have said so themselves

FACT: you are dreaming if you think that Saunders will fight lil'G for less than half what Kell Brook, got paid..... regardless as to the reason why.

That fight will never happen under those conditions man.

So you can post those cute excuses to the IBHOF. They won't read them of course..... because they don't listen to excuses, they just count names.

1) I do not believe that the platform will make much difference, punters will either buy that fight, or they won't..... and Saunders/Golovkin is a much better fight than Brook, much easier to market. Can Golovkin draw, or is he relying on Brook ? LMAO

2) Same thing..... they offered Jacobs "Quillin money"..... so, can Golovkin draw more than Quillin, or what?

FACT: you are dreaming if you think that 1.5mil for Saunders, and "Quillin money" for Jacobs..... is even close to the best offer they could have made..... so that "we did everything we can" line, is rubbish.

Brook will be handsomely rewarded because GGG wanted to fight Brook.

[aboutfkntime]

I don't dream about fights. Maybe that is one of the pre-requisites of being a true hardcore fan. But ,,,,, I can distinguish dreams from reality. You have to think that the reason that Brook is making close to 3 times Jacob's highest ever purse is because the fight will generate 3 times as much as Jacobs/Quillen generated. And it's REAL. It IS NOT A DREAM.

Now if Jacobs and Saunders want that kind of money or dream of that kind of money, that is all well and good. Nothing wrong with dreaming - we all do it - it's free entertainment and creates nice warm fuzzy feelings. But a realist will consider why Brook is getting $4 million [or Eubank could have got] and more importantly how Jacobs or Suanders will be able to realise a $4 million purse.

I.E .... who is capable of paying that amount and under what circumstances that promoter would be willing to pay that money.

If you do that you should quickly realize that the Brook situation has unique circumstances.

a/ Brook is well known in the UK and the fight will be made and shown in the UK
b/ Brook is with Hearn and Hearn is with Sky ppv.
c/ The boxing scene in the UK right now is unique. Many casuals and semi-hardcore fans willing to shell out for fights.
d/ Casual fans love to see strange matchups - so ww jumping to fight mw monster is an easy sell.

None of these apply to Jacobs or Saunders except a/ for Saunders.

Brook is simply not a draw.

I have never heard ANYONE refer to Kell Brook as a lucrative opponent.

e.g.
Brook is not even remotely close to Khan's level..... and Khan is not even remotely close to Canelo's level..... Brook has never fought on PPV, and has only ever fought Shawn Porter..... and that fight was 2 years ago.

Also, it is a ****-fight..... Kell Brook has NO CHANCE of winning.

I do not believe that Kell Brook would generate more than Saunders..... he is a much more marketable opponent for Golovkin.

And I also do not believe that Jacobs/Quillin could generate more than GGG/Jacobs.....

..... you will never convince me that 1.5mil and "Quillin money" are the best offers that Team Bull**** could come up with.

[Tails]

Their 30 days weights don't surprise me too much as most boxers shrink down to their weight class. Golokin overall is thin for the most part and not really muscular other than his arms. Plus he seems to stay in shape in most of the pictures that are posted of him so anything under 170 isn't shocking. I figured Brook would be closer to 168 at this point however. Come fight night I think they will weigh about the same but that isn't the problem I see Brook having. Golovkin will be so much more naturally stronger, powerful, and skilled than anyone Brook has faced in his career by far.

[Brakus]

Please don't even respond to a post like that. If someone wants to question GGG's competition, ok, let's debate that (although I'd disagree); but anyone that says hes a coward, much less the biggest one on the histry of boxing is clearly trolling

Agreed brother

[Tomjas]

FACT: you are dreaming if you think that Saunders will fight lil'G for less than half what Kell Brook, got paid..... regardless as to the reason why.

That fight will never happen under those conditions man.

So you can post those cute excuses to the IBHOF. They won't read them of course..... because they don't listen to excuses, they just count names.

1) I do not believe that the platform will make much difference, punters will either buy that fight, or they won't..... and Saunders/Golovkin is a much better fight than Brook, much easier to market. Can Golovkin draw, or is he relying on Brook ? LMAO

2) Same thing..... they offered Jacobs "Quillin money"..... so, can Golovkin draw more than Quillin, or what?

FACT: you are dreaming if you think that 1.5mil for Saunders, and "Quillin money" for Jacobs..... is even close to the best offer they could have made..... so that "we did everything we can" line, is rubbish.

Brook will be handsomely rewarded because GGG wanted to fight Brook.

It's the most K2 can offer them for a fight in the US - they're a business, not a charity

Of course, Uncle AL could always pitch in to help with Jacobs and/or Warren could stage the Saunders fight in the UK

After all, if they are such "lucrative" fights (ha ha), they should be jumping at the chance TO PAY THEIR FIGHTERS ridiculous amounts of money.

Fact is that Haymon is happy to see Jacobs fight for a third of the money against Mora whilst Warren is sitting idly by whilst Saunders potentially commits professional hari kari by ****ting on GBP and Fat Dan

They dont want it - END OF STORY

[SteveM]

Brook is simply not a draw.

I have never heard ANYONE refer to Kell Brook as a lucrative opponent.

e.g.
Brook is not even remotely close to Khan's level..... and Khan is not even remotely close to Canelo's level..... Brook has never fought on PPV, and has only ever fought Shawn Porter..... and that fight was 2 years ago.

Also, it is a ****-fight..... Kell Brook has NO CHANCE of winning.

I do not believe that Kell Brook would generate more than Saunders..... he is a much more marketable opponent for Golovkin.

And I also do not believe that Jacobs/Quillin could generate more than GGG/Jacobs.....

..... you will never convince me that 1.5mil and "Quillin money" are the best offers that Team Bull**** could come up with.

Beliefs, beliefs and convictions. Based on your opinions, not reality.

Many on NSB believe Khan has been ducking Brook because that fight, prior to Khan even knowing about the Canelo fight, would have given both a multi-million payday - but Khan said Brook was not on his level? Based on what? He saw a big threat and as most agreed at the time, it was ok to lose to Canelo but not Brook.

Brook have many who think he is close to elite but has never had a chance to prove it - especially in the UK. Khan looked the same but has been found out. Put Brook in with this 'mega-monster- Golvkin who is also said to be elite and has yet to prove it and you have a hugely marketable fight in the Uk [not in the UK]. Saunders has few fans among casuals in the UK plus no matter how you market it - who is going to be paying the money. Warren and Box Nation don't have multi-millions and nor does K2 and as Saunders is an unknown entity in the US then HBO won't pay for it. So yes, Sky will pay for Eubank or Brook to fight GGG and Hearn can put it together. Saunders is with the wrong promoter.

Jacobs is unknown in the UK. Not a huge name in the USA. Quillen/Jacobs was promoted as a battle to see who is king of New York. That worked a bit. At its best GGG/Jacobs might attract same kind of interest as Lemieux/Golovkin. Much better fight mind you but the interest is not there for $4M paydays.
You should pay more attention to the finances over in the UK - that is what is creating a 4M payday for Brook - nothing else.