Comments Thread For: Adam Booth: Brook Doesn't Have The Power To Trouble Golovkin

[kafkod]

I don't know how many times it has to be explained to people. No elite top fighter is willing to get into the ring with GGG! There are some pretty good names on his resume Proksa, Stevens, Rosado, Murray, Geale, Lemieux, Brook. In the olympics knocked down Bute with headgear on, beat Andy Lee, Matvey Korobov, Andre Dirrell. Hype job??????????

What other middleweight at 160 has a resume better than GGG? I'll wait..... The guy is a silver medalist and unified champ at 160 but he's a hype job only a fool would believe that.

Pan Asian and world amateur championship gold medal winner too.

[Boxing Logic]

The second part is true. GGG beat the true lineal middleweight champion Martin Murray after Murray got robbed in Argentina when they didn't count his knockdowns. Of course he only won that lineal fight because Martinez was old... but then Adonis Stevenson only won his lineal fight because Dawson was shot, and Cotto (now Canelo) only got their lineal belts because Murray got robbed, Martinez kept the belt, and Martinez was even older when he fought Cotto.

And I don't none of yall complaining about that. GGG at least beat a prime, big guy in Martin Murray to win the real lineal title if not for the Martinez robbery. Prime Martin Murray is better than shot Martinez, as he showed knocking him down multiple times in Argentina, and better than shot Dawson who had just been KO'd by Ward.

Curtis Stevens was also destroying fools before he ran into GGG. Many here were demanding that fight. And David Lemieux is the most underrated fighter on boxingscene. There's a reason they didn't make the Lemieux-Canelo fight, Lemieux would kick Canelo's ass. There's a reason Lara won't fight Lemieux to earn the GGG fight, Lemieux would kick Lara's ass. He ran into a better version of himself in GGG. Otherwise he and Jacobs would be a 50-50 fight for #2 in the division, and I'd pick Lemieux because Jacobs defense and deterrent isn't as good as GGG, so I think Lemieux would hit Jacobs, and anyone without an elite chin, which Jacobs does not have, is probably not going to win a fight with Lemieux if they get hit. And Lemieux showed a very good chin against GGG. So that would be a war and the more durable guy Lemieux would be the favorite. So that's the #2 in the division. GGG beat the guy who would have been lineal, aka the #1, and he beat the #2. But people act like he beat no one.

[therealpugilist]

We have all seen everything you have to say about GGG a hundred times already. Don't you remember writing it, posting it, then reading what people have to say about it all so many times before?

What are you, a man or a freaking goldfish?

i'll keep making the same point....when you fools stop making excuses and giving him a pass for not taking any risks...you guys say the same thing everyday about this guy.....top 3 p4p..he a monster doe...they ducking doe...where is the proof? His team has to negotiate, everyone is ducking this guy. are you naive....i'll be a gold fish but at least im not a naive, gullible one.


he isnt top 3 p4p let alone top ten with the level of opposition he fights....you dont get browny points for knocking out overmatched opposition

so.....why did you avoid the question....do you see him fighting a top 5 middleweight after brook? be honest

[therealpugilist]

I don't know how many times it has to be explained to people. No elite top fighter is willing to get into the ring with GGG! There are some pretty good names on his resume Proksa, Stevens, Rosado, Murray, Geale, Lemieux, Brook. In the olympics knocked down Bute with headgear on, beat Andy Lee, Matvey Korobov, Andre Dirrell. Hype job??????????

What other middleweight at 160 has a resume better than GGG? I'll wait..... The guy is a silver medalist and unified champ at 160 but he's a hype job only a fool would believe that.

be honest, do you see GGG fighting a top 5 middleweight after brook?

[kafkod]

i'll keep making the same point....when you fools stop making excuses and giving him a pass for not taking any risks...you guys say the same thing everyday about this guy.....top 3 p4p..he a monster doe...they ducking doe...where is the proof? His team has to negotiate, everyone is ducking this guy. are you naive....i'll be a gold fish but at least im not a naive, gullible one.


he isnt top 3 p4p let alone top ten with the level of opposition he fights....you dont get browny points for knocking out overmatched opposition

so.....why did you avoid the question....do you see him fighting a top 5 middleweight after brook? be honest

Here are the top 5 MW's as per Ring magazine.

1. Canelo, lineal champion. Handed over his WBC belt to avoid Golovkin.

2. The Man himself.

3. Daniel Jacobs. Won't fight Golovkin unless he is paid twice as much as GGG himself has ever earned for a fight.

4. Billy Joe Saunders. Same as Jacobs.

5. David Lemieux. KO'd by GGG last year.

Yes, it's a safe bet that GGG won't be fighting a top 5 MW next.

"Loeffler won't negotiate doe, else we would have read about it on twitter"

[soul_survivor]

SOooo A welterweight is going to impose his strength on a full fledged Middleweight in the clinches????? You guys should really proof read the ish you write.. Last thing Brook should do is try to get in the trenches with GGG because the liver shot from GGG will likely break his ribs, literally. With GGG you want to get in and out and move not clinch and stand in front of him because you won't be able to take it.

Brook is a strong guy is all I'm saying. He should try and use that strength. Will it be enough against GGG? I dunno but it's one of the tricks he has to use. He can't allow GGG to have it all his own way.

Khan used his speed to great effect before getting stopped, Brook doesn't have that speed. So he has to use his strength. It might help early. I'm not saying he'll be stronger than GGG or that he can win, I'm just saying he should get physical in there, even if it's only to play some mind games.

[soul_survivor]

Here are the MW rankings as per Ring magazine.

1. Canelo, lineal champion. Handed over his WBC belt to avoid Golovkin.

2. The Man himself.

3. Daniel Jacobs. Won't fight Golovkin unless he is paid twice as much as GGG himself has ever earned for a fight.

4. Billy Joe Saunders. Same as Jacobs.

5. David Lemieux. KO'd by GGG last year.

Yes, it's a safe bet that GGG won't be fighting a top 5 MW next.

"Loeffler won't negotiate doe, else we would have read about it on twitter"

This sums up the argument that GGG won't fight the best available opposition. It's just that he can't.

Don't forget Eubank turned down a multimillion pound contract for the fight too.

That's 5 opponents I count who all turned down the fight.

[elfag]

going to be the biggest ask he has ever had.



thanks boxingscene. great article.

[therealpugilist]

Here are the top 5 MW's as per Ring magazine.

1. Canelo, lineal champion. Handed over his WBC belt to avoid Golovkin.

2. The Man himself.

3. Daniel Jacobs. Won't fight Golovkin unless he is paid twice as much as GGG himself has ever earned for a fight.

4. Billy Joe Saunders. Same as Jacobs.

5. David Lemieux. KO'd by GGG last year.

Yes, it's a safe bet that GGG won't be fighting a top 5 MW next.

"Loeffler won't negotiate doe, else we would have read about it on twitter"

...so basically...no....moving on...

.enjoy the mismatches bro...he wont face anyone top 5 from 154 and 168 either but dont mind the little fellas from 147......so I guess his team forgot all about 154-168

according to ring magazine...they still have Canelo as the champ.....ggg # 1 and below him is Jacobs, BJS, Lemieux, lee and eubanks at 5


if he isnt fighting top 5 middleweights or top 5 from 154, 168...IDGAF who is fighting....been waiting 3 years for this guy to fight someone better than Murray level type guy. Lemieux could be viewed as a step up but its hard to forget the underwhelming fighters he took loses to.

either way, IDGAF who his opponents are and have not watched any of his fights live since Lemieux or before it, his competition doesnt spark imagination...anything less than top 5 and I'll just catch the recap.

[therealpugilist]

This sums up the argument that GGG won't fight the best available opposition. It's just that he can't.

Don't forget Eubank turned down a multimillion pound contract for the fight too.

That's 5 opponents I count who all turned down the fight.

so basically

1) he wont be fighting anyone worth a damn til Canelo @ 160 next year..i knew that already

2) he isnt moving up so rule out anyone at 168

3) so basically he'll be fighting welterweights, and no name middlweights until he gets a big payday


Oh the excitement and suspense