Comments Thread For: Hopkins on GGG-Brook: Time Will Reveal All The Frauds in Boxing

[Vasyl’s dad]

thang is he did tho he fought the LIGHT HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPION Antonio Tarver and jumped up TWO weight divisions

And got embarrassed by Joe Calzaghe.

[WarMaidana]

wait but didn't hopkins (a light heavyweight) want to fight GGG (a middleweight)

[BillyBoxing]

GGG took on Brook because, the other negotiation fell apart.

Hopkins is doing what Charlatans like La Hoya do best. Twisting things and confuse people, trying to get something for nothing.

There is a huge difference in size and skills between Khan and Brook. Brook will take out Khan. Brook is as big as GGG, Brook is a much bigger name than Khan.

Hopkins, why don't you convince you golden boy Canelo to fight GGG, this year, not 5 years from now when he is old.

Brook is a smaller fighter, let's not deny it.

So was Khan, but the main problem with Khan was his chin.

His chin had been cracked at 135 and 140 so I don't know how they believed they could take some punches from a big SWW who almost rehydrate 20 pounds.

[socialteach]

Bhop was a big middleweight starving to make the limit. GGG is a small to average size for middleweight. Ward was struggling to make 168. Two different situations.

[Kigali]

Bhop was a big middleweight starving to make the limit. GGG is a small to average size for middleweight. Ward was struggling to make 168. Two different situations.

That is a lie.

When Hops was at 160 he walked around close to his fighting weight..
Starving fighters can't do that.

Hopkins is taller than GGG yet he was able to make Oscar's catchweight.....
Since GGG is sooooo small...he should easilly be able to make Canelo's catchweight.

[robertzimmerman]

Mr. Luthor,

Why would you think Canelo and Golden Boy care that the WBC made Golovkin the mandatory to Cotto, especially when you consider that sanctioning bodies rarely make champions from other sanctioned bodies the mandatory to their champions? Cotto drooped that belt and so did Canelo. A-side boxers who also have the Lineal/RING title, have no reason to allow the WBC to dictate who they fight and when.

It's not the point whether or not they cared. They knew. They knew he was the mandatory, they knew what the terms were, and they knew they had to negotiate in a certain timescale. So they had 2 choices: They either relinquished the belt or they went to negotiate to make the fight. But instead of relinquishing straight away, they basically said: "We want a voluntary beforehand, but we'll be happy to negotiate for a fight afterwards" Again, they should have just walked from the start.

"The rules of boxing"....the WBC mandatory opponent only matters when the WBC Champion cares about the WBC title. Canelo does not because no matter what the WBC wants, Canleo is now a 2 division champion and has the freedom and power to face whomever he wants. The rules of boxing also say that Canelo can keep his Lineal Middleweight title with or without facing Golovkin. As long as that is true, Canelo holds all the cards especially with Billy Joe Saunders having the WBO strap and being a potential Canelo opponent. The facts remain that Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr, etc. all have youth on their side in regards to Golovkin and all have other lucrative potential fights with each other. Golovkin's is the one with the shortest window of opportunity so he might need to start making some sacrifices.

So now he doesn't care about the belt? Yet he did when he fought Cotto. He was more than happy to be declared the lineal MW title holder. He was a proud Mexican, MW champ. He cared then, but now he doesn't?

Canelo isn't a 2 weight champ. He was, until he relinquished the belt to run back to JMW.

No, Canelo doesn't hold all the cards. But yes, if he could obtain BJS's WBO belt before he meets GG, that would give him more leverage.

I agree with you that GG obviously has a shorter time in the sport. And if Canelo doesn't get to BJS first, GG will have to go all out to try and get BJS to fight him. But will BJS be interested? It's going to take a huge payday to lure him. He's already admitted on numerous occasions that GG would beat him.

You're only fooling yourself. Canelo has the Lineal and RING Middleweight titles. Canelo has a US PPV fan base, Mexican tv deals and can either agree to fight Saunders in the UK in front of a huge audience plus UK/US PPV or do it in Las Vegas or Texas. Golovkin has no PPV fan base and no leverage because who do you think Saunders will choose to fight first....Canelo or Golovkin? Easy choice. PPV star and Lineal Middleweight champion that isn't a career Middleweight or Gennady Golovkin? There's a reason Canelo is fighting Liam Smith and Saunders is in talks to be on the under-card.

Nobody refers to Canelo as being the lineal MW champ. Yes, he's got a huge fan base, but he's lost respect and GG's fan base is getting bigger each fight.

Of course BJS would fight Canelo first. Because he'll be ultra confident of beating him. Whereas he doesn't really see GG as a winnable fight.

Canelo nor Saunders need Golovkin but Golovkin needs them if his goal is to unify the division.

True. But again, this time next year could see GG in a bigger position of power. And Oscar won't be able to come in and start demanding everything in Canelo's favour.

[Kigali]

Bernard should shut his mouth, because he would never have moved up in GG's current position.

Sure he would have.

Not only that...

Hopkins would have accepted Canelo's catchweight...just like he did Oscar's.

Unlike Hopkins...GGG is not about taking any chances at all.

[BillyBoxing]

thang is he did tho he fought the LIGHT HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPION Antonio Tarver and jumped up TWO weight divisions

Bernard waited 40 years old to move up to 175 and Jermain Taylor definitely forced him towards this direction.


What Bernard did versus Tarver was a masterpiece.

Yet Tarver was and had always been a B fighter IMO, losing to Harding and Glenn G before KOING Roy who was coming back down from +200 pounds.

The real good southpaw at 168/175 was Calzaghe and unfortunately, he spanked Nard.


Bernard is always selling his character in interviews, "I did this, did that"...
He's a smart, interesting and funny guy but he also can sound bitter and boring when it comes to speak about himself.

[BlackSoul]

Bernard waited 40 years old to move up to 175 and Jermain Taylor definitely forced him towards this direction.


What Bernard did versus Tarver was a masterpiece.

Yet Tarver was and had always been a B fighter IMO, losing to Harding and Glenn G before KOING Roy who was coming back down from +200 pounds.

The real good southpaw at 168/175 was Calzaghe and unfortunately, he spanked Nard.


Bernard is always selling his character in interviews, "I did this, did that"...
He's a smart, interesting and funny guy but he also can sound bitter and boring when it comes to speak about himself.

i had BHop winning the calsaghe fight 8-4

[robertzimmerman]

Canelo has said 155 pounds to fight me and Golovkin has said no catch weight.

Why would Canelo vacate the title before he had to? He keeps saying he isn't giving anyone any advantages anymore. Furthermore, Canelo/Golden Boy were never going to agree to the WBC champion/mandatory purse split of 55/45. Golovkin hasn't earned that.

Of course he said no to a CW. He was a fellow MW champ. Two of his own belts would have been on the line. It was just a joke. But we now know that it wouldn't have made any difference regardless.

Why did he keep it if he had no intentions of fighting GG?

He didn't need it to lure Khan in. He could have fought Khan without it.

Advantages? Ha! What, fighting a fellow MW champ at the limit for 3 belts?

If Canelo and Oscar were never going to agree with the WBC's rules, again, why didn't they relinquish the belt instead of asking to a fight Khan before negotiating with GG?

What do you mean GG hasn't earnt it? This makes me sick. Those are the rules of boxing. You can't be in favour of the rules one minute, but not the next. GG was declared his mandatory and was a 2 weight champ before he'd even beat Cotto.