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Originally posted by No Tomorrow View PostDude. Give me a break. How many of these boxers either flat-out avoid Golovkin or price themselves out?
Any boxer can say they're willing to fight another boxer, but then when come time for the negotiations to demand a price that is much higher than their deserved value. Then the boxer can say "I tried to make the fight, but they didn't want it." Well no ****! It's equivalent to De La Hoya "Yeah, we'll fight Golovkin . . . If he agrees to a 90-10 split in Canelo's favor". Get the **** out of here. We're probably never going to get to see the fights we want to see involving Golovkin because he's still not THAT big of a draw and these potential opponents will continue to over-price themselves from being able to be taken seriously.
If K2/Loeffler could get GBP to agree on a 65/35 split in Canelo's favor (which is fair) then that fight could get made smoothly.
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Originally posted by No Tomorrow View PostWhat don't you get?
Khan was Canelo's initial choice.
Brook was far from being Gennady's initial choice.
When all of your options fall through due to people over pricing themselves in negotiations and you still want to stay active and get a big profile fight then of course a fight against Brook in the UK makes perfect sense.
You think Cotto was willing to negotiate sanely?
How about Canelo?
Lara?
Eubank, Jr.?
Jacobs?
Quillin?
The list goes on, dude. Any one can "claim" they "want" to fight some one, but when you throw out offers that you know the other side is not going to take seriously then it's a passive-aggressive form of avoiding an opponent.
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Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts View PostBrook was on the cards all along. Which is why the Brook-Vargas negotiations were delayed. Open your fucking eyes.
So you don't see Eubank, Jr. over pricing himself as the root cause for this predicament?
Interesting.
Do you actually care for the sport or do you use it as a tool to channel your anger/pessimism, picking a fighter to emotionally despise and then wish the worst for them?
This is typical of most Internet Boxing fans that are narcissistic/selfish/jaded/confirmation bias oriented and that don't understand any thing about business.
Seriously dude. Re think the path you are on. You are clearly dedicating way too much time of your life to one person that you've never met and that has no effect to what so ever. It's INCREDIBLY beta-male. Life can be so much more awesome. I promise. Give it a consideration.
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Originally posted by No Tomorrow View PostThat's quite the tin foil revisionist theory you've got.
So you don't see Eubank, Jr. over pricing himself as the root cause for this predicament?
Interesting.
Do you actually care for the sport or do you use it as a tool to channel your anger/pessimism, picking a fighter to emotionally despise and then wish the worst for them?
This is typical of most Internet Boxing fans that are narcissistic/selfish/jaded/confirmation bias oriented and that don't understand any thing about business.
Seriously dude. Re think the path you are on. You are clearly dedicating way too much time of your life to one person that you've never met and that has no effect to what so ever. It's INCREDIBLY beta-male. Life can be so much more awesome. I promise. Give it a consideration.
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Originally posted by Ray* View PostAt the end of the day facts are facts. No matter what excuses comes up now, fact is GGG kinda talked himself into that one. He did the exact same thing that canelo did. Doesn't matter why he did it, fact is he did.
In what world was Golovkin "forced" to fight on September 10 in the UK and/or forced to fight a Welterweight? Both of these actions are choices and any boxer would be and should be criticized when they make the exact same choices that they have been publicly critical of when done by others. Hypocrisy is alive and well at K2.
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Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts View PostTake your bullshit and shove it up your shithole if there's room beside the big black *****. The switch was planned all along, both Eubank Jr and Hearns said Eubank Jr never saw the contract.
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Originally posted by MDPopescu View PostK2's Loeffler should have had looked for some shady tycoons from Kazakhstan able to provide Golovkin with $15-20 million and lure the likes of BJS, Jacobs, Lara, Eubank Jr etc to fight GGG in Alamata, Karaganda or Astana... right?... and schedule the fights at Kazakhstan at 11:00 a.m. on Sunday, in order for HBO to air them at 09:00 p.m. on Saturday (E.T)... Right?
Problem solved.
To conclude: ****** Loeffler; coward GGG.
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I believe what Hopkins is saying is true. If you cant find anyone at 160 go to 168! thats what you do. Canelo same thing man fight at 154 or 160. If 154 is your weigth class than drop the catch weight and fight everyone at 154 then move up.
GGG can beat all those 168 guys idk why they just dont create their own legacy there? If they clean that out go up and fight the real guys like Ward and Kovalev. Thats what its all about...challenging yourself.
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