Comments Thread For: Griffin: Andre Ward is on Roy Jones' Level With His Boxing IQ

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In 1997, Montell Griffin shocked the world when he handed pound-for-pound king Roy Jones Jr. his first professional loss. The fight was a nip and tuck affair going into the 9th round when Jones was disqualified for hitting Griffin right after he took a knee.
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[asgarth]

if Roy had such great boxing IQ, wouldnt he have been able to adjust his skillset, after his physical abilities started to diminish?

Hopkins has great boxing IQ and used every ounce of it to be competitive at his age, Roy Jones was ridiculous good at his best, but once his reflexes and speed/power were gone, he couldnt keep up anymore.

Mayweather also adjusted his style, after he started to get slower.

[Robbie Barrett]

Damn, if i was Ward i'd feel insulted.

[Mr. Luthor]

C'mon Gentleman. Roy Jones Jr is considered one of the greatest boxers ever and was 35 yrs old, a 4 Division champion and in his 50th professional fight before he was actually beaten in a boxing ring. A boxer can have high boxing I.Q. while also having diminishing skills.

[Achille]

if Roy had such great boxing IQ, wouldnt he have been able to adjust his skillset, after his physical abilities started to diminish?

Hopkins has great boxing IQ and used every ounce of it to be competitive at his age, Roy Jones was ridiculous good at his best, but once his reflexes and speed/power were gone, he couldnt keep up anymore.

Mayweather also adjusted his style, after he started to get slower.

Well them guys didn't move up to HW and then moved back down in weight. Once Roy did that he's always been a shell of himself. First Tarver fight barely won, first time you scene busted up and bleeding. The weight dropped really messed him up at that age affected his body severely. Even Mackie Shilstone told him not to move back down and he was the one that helped Roy bulk up and prepare for the HW fight with Ruiz.

Roy has made some adjustments at an older age in some fights, but he chooses not to and reverts back to his old ways fighting like he's young again. The best trainer he had been Tom Yankello, he worked with him helped improved his defense/keeping off the ropes/Hands up etc. Fought Max Alexander and RJJ's back only touched the ropes one time. His next fight, fights against the dude in Poland RJJ reverts back and doesn't listen to Tom in the fight so they parted ways.

[New England]

roy operated at an extremely high level and was extremely technical in his prime. he was about as sharp as you can get.


but, as others have said, roy had trouble being effetive once he had slowed down and wasn't able to rely on superior timing and speed. he had fundamental flaws that were advantages when he had the reflexes to address the openings theyt left, and turn them into offense. once that went, roy jhones wasn't roy jones any more.

[RealIzm]

Well them guys didn't move up to HW and then moved back down in weight. Once Roy did that he's always been a shell of himself. First Tarver fight barely won, first time you scene busted up and bleeding. The weight dropped really messed him up at that age affected his body severely. Even Mackie Shilstone told him not to move back down and he was the one that helped Roy bulk up and prepare for the HW fight with Ruiz.

Roy has made some adjustments at an older age in some fights, but he chooses not to and reverts back to his old ways fighting like he's young again. The best trainer he had been Tom Yankello, he worked with him helped improved his defense/keeping off the ropes/Hands up etc. Fought Max Alexander and RJJ's back only touched the ropes one time. His next fight, fights against the dude in Poland RJJ reverts back and doesn't listen to Tom in the fight so they parted ways.

I agree with this post. Once he slowed down his style doomed him. He never adapted his style for his drop in speed.
The king of Oakland isn't the sort of legend Roy is. From middleweight to heavyweight is what gods do.

[Madison Boxing]

any more jokes griffin? that was a good one...

[FrankieClutch]

Roy relied much more on his athleticism and reflexes much more than his boxing IQ

[Adonis Creed]

IQ yes, skills and talent not even close.