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Bernard Hopkins took calculated risks, he is 1 of the most overrated modern ATG
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Originally posted by Mister Wolf View PostHow the **** is being a 40 year old man near your prime for any adult male.
look at serena williams, she may be older but she is more dominant now than she was in her "prime" years
every athlete is not the same
Lennox Lewis wasnt the best lennox until he was in his 30s
Hopkins never bloated between fights, was disciplined, didnt smoke or drink, things came together for him skillwise in his 30s he became a more complete fighter.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postyou're embarassing yourself because woodhall is the only fight you probably watched him fight. He also defeated world champions Robin reid, byron mitchell, eubank, Charles Brewer
so tarver didnt lose to eric harding? you saw the first fight right? you followed Tarver's career right? He fought erratic his entire career...some fights he looked like he could be a great, other fights he looked uninterested
he didnt give away the fight to Jones in fight one?
he didnt lose to Glencoffe Johnson right?
those are facts, those facts are why I saw calzaghe as a bigger threat...he was more naturally talented and more consistent than Tarver.
Oh yeah, I watched the Woodhall fight but missed the rest. Stop saying stupid **** like that.
Tarver lost to Harding, and knocked him out in the rematch. He'd lost to Jones, and knocked him out in the rematch, he'd lost to Johnson, and beat him in the rematch.
He was #1 LHW and P4P Top 5.
Calzaghe was a paper champion at 168.
Revisionist history and outright embarrassing to try and claim Calzaghe was a bigger threat at the time.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postprime isnt just physical...its also mental, know how, techniques, etc.....some athletes dont reach their prime until their 30s and maintain it and top form longer than others
look at serena williams, she may be older but she is more dominant now than she was in her "prime" years
every athlete is not the same
Lennox Lewis wasnt the best lennox until he was in his 30s
Hopkins never bloated between fights, was disciplined, didnt smoke or drink, things came together for him skillwise in his 30s he became a more complete fighter.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI thought he lost to Robin Reid.
Oh yeah, I watched the Woodhall fight but missed the rest. Stop saying stupid **** like that.
Tarver lost to Harding, and knocked him out in the rematch. He'd lost to Jones, and knocked him out in the rematch, he'd lost to Johnson, and beat him in the rematch.
He was #1 LHW and P4P Top 5.
Calzaghe was a paper champion at 168.
Revisionist history and outright embarrassing to try and claim Calzaghe was a bigger threat at the time.
Tarver was erratic man
he was never p4p to me....just because you beat someone thats p4p doesnt make you automatically p4p its the body of work, and tarver was inconsistent on the highest levelLast edited by therealpugilist; 07-28-2016, 03:45 PM.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postprime isnt just physical...its also mental, know how, techniques, etc.....some athletes dont reach their prime until their 30s and maintain it and top form longer than others
look at serena williams, she may be older but she is more dominant now than she was in her "prime" years
every athlete is not the same
Lennox Lewis wasnt the best lennox until he was in his 30s
Hopkins never bloated between fights, was disciplined, didnt smoke or drink, things came together for him skillwise in his 30s he became a more complete fighter.
This is Hopkins in his prime and would demolish the version of himself who fought taylor or trinindad for that matter. People watch too many karate kid old man master bull****.
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Originally posted by Mister Wolf View PostStop man, prime is physical.
This is Hopkins in his prime and would demolish the version of himself who fought taylor or trinindad for that matter. People watch too many karate kid old man master bull****.
just because you are faster or jump higher when you're younger doesnt mean you are better.
example.....Kobe Bryant was better player post shaq, he won more rings with him but he was an overall better player when his know how caught up with his physicality
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostYep. Watch those fights. The guy who fought Glen Johnson is just jaw-dropping. And of course, the Tito performance.
too bad his opposition was mostly hot gawbage around this time
He was a bad MFer then.....he had fights on espn and usa back then
he maintained a high level after this, his punched output dropped a bit after 2002 but he was still a top ten p4p guy until the mid to late 2000s....I think Taylor just had his number style size, speed and size, good jab and combos. It was clear Hopkins wasnt prime anymore, he had a good motor in the late 90s. He could control fighters better in the early 2000s thoughLast edited by therealpugilist; 07-28-2016, 03:54 PM.
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