Floyd, Ward, Rigo and Crawford?

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Prime Floyd trying to get all offensive got beat by Castillo. His only top offensive performance against a B+ or more fighter was Corrales which I applaud him for. One fight however, does not make you a great offensive fighter. Mayweather, anytime he stepped up against a truly top fighter always went full defensive because he knew/knows his limitations. We can't call him anything more than an average offensive fighter because of what he did against Gtati or Ndou.

Ward isn't a throw back, he fights 3 times in 4 years. Secondly, yes there are certain tricks taught in gyms but I've never seen a fighter compared to the greats like Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran, whose entire skill set is based on being as dirty as possible and getting away with it. Even a prime Hopkins was more versatile and more watchable. Ward's greatest attribute is his training and strength.

LOL alright man, your mind is made up no need to even talk boxing with you, a fighter adapts to his strengths and wins the fight and that's a bad thing? Ward is not a throw back fighter??? he had contract issues... but nevermind ur right they are just average fighters have a good one.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

How can you not understand that some people think it isn't exactly great that you decide you can't actually outbox someone so you break the rules(or bend them a lot). Praise that all you want but Floyd never had to do that *****..... You should check out Carlos Molina....He's probably even better than Ward at not fighting....

Ward is at his best from the far outside using his jab...Not when he's shoving his head into peoples faces...

Guys like Toney/Duran are the really skillful fighters....

James toney is my fav fighter ever... but the thread was about those 4 fighters and this era, yeah Floyd never did anything in the ring according to the posters here, I understand. and Ward cannot box outside of elbows and head butting. I guess for every new fighter that comes they will be downplayed because they weren't born earlier and cannot compare to the guys who were... nothing else to talk about.. thanks for the conversation, have a good one

[KingHippo]

Yeah you're right. Frampton has the far superior lead hand. It'd be ****** to say Rigo has that.

An orthodox fighter who uses his lead hand more than a southpaw? SHOCKING

And Rigo shat himself everytime a fighter takes a step towards him causing him to be shut out ob the networks... I love Rigo,

Just stop

Face it , if Rigo beat Quigg the way Frampton did he would get praise, Frampton didn't.

Rigo beat a top 5 p4p fighter and he's still not getting recognition, what the **** are you talking about????

Rigo has tremendous skills....So does Frampton. Why has one fighter been ignored here? The reason is rather obvious....

You trying to compare Frampton, Quigg, or BJS to any of those fighters shows a much stronger agenda. You'd get laughed at in any serious boxing discussion trying to come up with that crap.

[Da Boxer]

I don't think it's even possible to get on the inside with Rigo.

This.

Rigo is like the 1000 years flood. Rare, unique, etc. The rest are like the 100 year floods, unique in their own ways, but seen more often.

For me P4P, between those 5 (Loma included) Rigo takes it.

Too bad that his style is not appreciated by the networks and casuals. But in reality its not Rigo's fault, dudes just go completely into defensive mode once they feel his bit and speed.

When Rigo hits flush, its impacting, sharp, hard, its like being hit by a 300 WinMag, just violent makes dudes just cover up and pray.

[KingHippo]

This.

Rigo is like the 1000 years flood. Rare, unique, etc. The rest are like the 100 year floods, unique in their own ways, but seen more often.

For me P4P, between those 5 (Loma included) Rigo takes it.

Too bad that his style is not appreciated by the networks and casuals. But in reality its not Rigo's fault, dudes just go completely into defensive mode once they feel his bit and speed.

When Rigo hits flush, its impacting, sharp, hard, its like being hit by a 300 WinMag, just violent makes dudes just cover up and pray.

Unfortunately, a lot of people simply don't know what they're looking at. They'll never outright admit it, but his style goes straight over their heads.

[PivotandRoll]

An orthodox fighter who uses his lead hand more than a southpaw? SHOCKING



Just stop



Rigo beat a top 5 p4p fighter and he's still not getting recognition, what the **** are you talking about????


Oh so whan Frampton does somethign better it's through circumstance and not skill but when Rigo does it is skill....And I'm the one with an agenda? BJS has a beautiful Jab, being southpaw has never stopped him using it.

You trying to compare Frampton, Quigg, or BJS to any of those fighters shows a much stronger agenda. You'd get laughed at in any serious boxing discussion trying to come up with that crap.

Right because Victor Postol is leaps and bounds above Andy Lee...Oh wait, No...he's not.

Yes he beat Donaire like 4 years ago. And show me one person who isn't a hater who doesn't give Rigo his props.....They say he is boring, No one says he isn't skilled. Also learn to read, Never once did I compare Quigg to those fighters, I compared Frampton's win over Quigg to Rigo's unspectacular wins.

You's are the one comparing Floyd Mayweather...A first ballot hall of fame ATG to guys just now venturing into their second weight class. When Frampton beats Leo what will Crawford or Ward done that he hasn't?

[PivotandRoll]

Unfortunately, a lot of people simply don't know what they're looking at. They'll never outright admit it, but his style goes straight over their heads.

Unfortunately idiots like you try to be pseudo intellectuals and take the contrary view in an attempt to do this. Rigo is not Floyd. Floyd is older than Rigo....Yet people seem to forget that.

His style is leading people into his left hands through beautiful footwork...it's is incredibly simple and you just expose yourself as a moron saying differently. he doesn't lead, he doesn't have a right hook or uppercut...barely has a jab...Uses his lead hand for control and that's it...

Something doesn't have to be complicated to be effective, in fact the opposite is almost always true.

[Da Boxer]

Have you seen Rigondeaux fight?

Mayweather has been in the ring with pretty good fighters, how many have been able to close distance on him?

Cotto?

He got inside Floyd...just saying.

[NEETzsche]

Cotto?

He got inside Floyd...just saying.

i think ellerbe got inside floyd too

[KingHippo]

Cotto?

He got inside Floyd...just saying.

Cotto cornered Floyd, but he couldn't get on the inside from center ring. Rigo controls distance way better then Floyd, has better footwork and I never seen his back touch the ropes once.