Floyd, Ward, Rigo and Crawford?

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  • PivotandRoll
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    #71
    Originally posted by -PBP-
    Rigo and Crawford don't belong in that category. Floyd and Ward are several notches above both.
    Basically this^^^ But I was being a prick about it and suggesting if Rigo deserves to be there then so does Frampton to expose it.... Rigo has some loyal boxing hipsters though.

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    • Silky-Flow
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      #72
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      Mayweather is excellent defensively but average offensively and just isn't versatile. Anytime he tries to actually fight, he almost gets beat. Heck, Maidana roughed him up like a ***** and Maidana is a 5'7'', fat light welter with zero high level wins.

      Ward is strong and tough on the inside but his "skills" are based on elbows, headbutts and clinching. Hardly a fluid, watchable fighter.

      Rigo is possibly the best of the lot in terms of what he can do all round but he has only fought one world class opponent.

      Crawford is still proving himself.

      So no, you can't even go and compare these guys to almost complete boxers/fighters/punchers in Duran, Leonard, Hearns and Hagler. Not to mention a generation which consisted of Oscar, Tito, Hopkins, Jones, Lewis, Holyfield and Tyson.

      People need to stop making troll threads to get views.
      LOL at this load of crap!!...yeah Floyd's dominance is just "defence"...never-mind his brilliant counter punching and dominant ko streak in the lower weights. And Ward hasn't lost since he was twelve because of "elbows and headbutts"? The fact that you're actually telling me Lewis, Tito and Holyfield were more technical than those I listed is also all kinds of mess.. Boy sit you ain't saying nothing!!! .

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        #73
        Originally posted by Silky-Flow
        LOL at this load of crap!!...yeah Floyd's dominance is just "defence"...never-mind his brilliant counter punching and dominant ko streak in the lower weights. And Ward hasn't lost since he was twelve because of "elbows and headbutts"? The fact that you're actually telling me Lewis, Tito and Holyfield were more technical than those I listed is also all kinds of mess.. Boy sit you ain't saying nothing!!! .
        Pretty sure he said against great fighters..... And COUNTER punching is defense..... Floyd isn't that great on the front foot. He couldn't stop Judah. His power is under appreciated though. The guy rocked Oscar on the ropes.

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        • KingHippo
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          #74
          Originally posted by -PBP-
          Rigo and Crawford don't belong in that category. Floyd and Ward are several notches above both.
          Floyd is several notches above Rigo? In what capacity?

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          • b00g13man
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            #75
            Crawford and Rigo aren't as complete as Floyd and Ward. Certainly not in my book.

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            • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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              #76
              Originally posted by Silky-Flow
              LOL at this load of crap!!...yeah Floyd's dominance is just "defence"...never-mind his brilliant counter punching and dominant ko streak in the lower weights. And Ward hasn't lost since he was twelve because of "elbows and headbutts"? The fact that you're actually telling me Lewis, Tito and Holyfield were more technical than those I listed is also all kinds of mess.. Boy sit you ain't saying nothing!!! .
              LOL man that guy is trippin hard!!!!!!!!!!

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                #77
                Originally posted by KingHippo
                Floyd is several notches above Rigo? In what capacity?
                rigo got knocked down before, that is their logic

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                • PivotandRoll
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                  Has there been a better foursome of technical fighters in a single era before? I'm talking about pure skills and ring generalship? I mean people might say Leanard, Hearns, Hagler and Duran but I'd question whether Hearns and Duran, technically, are on the same level as these guys tbh.

                  And one last question... let's imagine Floyd, Rigo, Ward and Crawford are all at the same weight class in their primes...who wins?

                  I honestly couldn't split em.
                  Wow!!! Totally missed the part where you said Crawford is better than Hearns and Duran technically.... How fu(king ******

                  Estaban De Jesus> Terrence Crawford

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                  • PivotandRoll
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
                    rigo got knocked down before, that is their logic
                    5 weight world champion, most wins in Championship fights. P4P king like 4 separate times. BEst defense in history....

                    Why is Rigo better than Floyd fanboy? please tell us

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                    • Silky-Flow
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by PivotandRoll
                      Pretty sure he said against great fighters..... And COUNTER punching is defense..... Floyd isn't that great on the front foot. He couldn't stop Judah. His power is under appreciated though. The guy rocked Oscar on the ropes.
                      LOL nah "Floyd ain't great on the front foot"..The Gatti performance, one of the very best in a boxing ring EVER, was just an illusion right?

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