Floyd, Ward, Rigo and Crawford?

[KingHippo]

Tall Poppy syndrome....People hate people who separate themselves from the herd. Still some fighters conveniently left out of this list and it's kinda obvious why.....

Yeah, I guess the p4p rankings are racist too.

[PivotandRoll]

rigo got up and won those fight!s if he couldn't take a punch he would have stayed on the ground, what do u want man? rigo has skills and some of the best skills of any active fighter, hes a professional fighter who was knocked down by another professional fighter, it happens. damn u people just don't stop

Yes he did, But why are these lesser defensive fighters not being dropped by better fighters? Stop crying hate you 12 year old girl.

Rigo has tremendous skills....So does Frampton. Why has one fighter been ignored here? The reason is rather obvious....

[PivotandRoll]

Yeah, I guess the p4p rankings are racist too.

No, he deserves to be P4P. As does Frampton. I love Rigo, you can stop trying to spin it differently.

[IronDanHamza]

Have you seen Rigondeaux fight?

Mayweather has been in the ring with pretty good fighters, how many have been able to close distance on him?

Why ask ****** questions?

We can't compare Mayweather with Rigondeaux because the gap in level of oppositon is way too wide.

[otrocubiche]

Hmmmm Rigo gets mentioned but not Frampton....Hmmmm Wonder why.....

Rigo gets dropped twice by a nobody....Defensive master. Frampton makes Quigg land in almost single digits...He didn't look good.....(Yes, Frampton ducked him, Not relevant to what I'm saying)

Where is BJS??? Dude almost never gets hits unless he is gassed and is way better defensively than Crawford...

Where is Lara? He should only have a draw against Molina who himself is a slick customer.

Bad comparison there with your boy, who got dropped twice by the 13th ranked Mexican in that division.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Yes he did, But why are these lesser defensive fighters not being dropped by better fighters? Stop crying hate you 12 year old girl.

Rigo has tremendous skills....So does Frampton. Why has one fighter been ignored here? The reason is rather obvious....

u have to ask the guy who started the thread, I never stated Frampton didn't have skills, he too gets cracked n gets up. I don't rate him as high as these fighters listed but he definitely has skills. a 12 year old girl? I think its because the 4 fighters listed receive the most hate, and what is the obvious reason ur speaking of?

[soul_survivor]

an older Floyd at 147 used less offense I agree, but are u saying that a young Floyd didn't have much offense???????

ward is a throw back fighter, he used all skills in his last fight and makes it dirty when he has too, dirty boxing is a taught skill in boxing gyms, deal with it. some of the greats you all idolize were dirty boxers at times. ward can do it all.

Prime Floyd trying to get all offensive got beat by Castillo. His only top offensive performance against a B+ or more fighter was Corrales which I applaud him for. One fight however, does not make you a great offensive fighter. Mayweather, anytime he stepped up against a truly top fighter always went full defensive because he knew/knows his limitations. We can't call him anything more than an average offensive fighter because of what he did against Gtati or Ndou.

Ward isn't a throw back, he fights 3 times in 4 years. Secondly, yes there are certain tricks taught in gyms but I've never seen a fighter compared to the greats like Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran, whose entire skill set is based on being as dirty as possible and getting away with it. Even a prime Hopkins was more versatile and more watchable. Ward's greatest attribute is his training and strength.

[PivotandRoll]

an older Floyd at 147 used less offense I agree, but are u saying that a young Floyd didn't have much offense???????

ward is a throw back fighter, he used all skills in his last fight and makes it dirty when he has too, dirty boxing is a taught skill in boxing gyms, deal with it. some of the greats you all idolize were dirty boxers at times. ward can do it all.

How can you not understand that some people think it isn't exactly great that you decide you can't actually outbox someone so you break the rules(or bend them a lot). Praise that all you want but Floyd never had to do that *****..... You should check out Carlos Molina....He's probably even better than Ward at not fighting....

Ward is at his best from the far outside using his jab...Not when he's shoving his head into peoples faces...

Guys like Toney/Duran are the really skillful fighters....

[PivotandRoll]

Prime Floyd trying to get all offensive got beat by Castillo. His only top offensive performance against a B+ or more fighter was Corrales which I applaud him for. One fight however, does not make you a great offensive fighter. Mayweather, anytime he stepped up against a truly top fighter always went full defensive because he knew/knows his limitations. We can't call him anything more than an average offensive fighter because of what he did against Gtati or Ndou.

Ward isn't a throw back, he fights 3 times in 4 years. Secondly, yes there are certain tricks taught in gyms but I've never seen a fighter compared to the greats like Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran, whose entire skill set is based on being as dirty as possible and getting away with it. Even a prime Hopkins was more versatile and more watchable. Ward's greatest attribute is his training and strength.

Judah. Floyd broke him down like a surgeon. But yeah for the most part you're right. Jab to the body, Lead right hand, Leaping left hook.....Doesn't do much more than that in 90% of his fights.

[PivotandRoll]

u have to ask the guy who started the thread, I never stated Frampton didn't have skills, he too gets cracked n gets up. I don't rate him as high as these fighters listed but he definitely has skills. a 12 year old girl? I think its because the 4 fighters listed receive the most hate, and what is the obvious reason ur speaking of?

They receive more hate than Fury? Broner? GGG? Garcia?

By who? The useless fans who are making excuses for the loses of their favorite fighters?

Will you still not rate Frampton with them if he beats Leo?