Did Floyd Mayweather use PED's? (simple answer for an OG member please)

[HeroBando]

As I've told you before, you are interpreting that incorrectly, as USADA makes clear and as WADA has proven.

1. Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO.

2. He was obviously allowed by the DCO to take the IV with the retroactive TUE in mind.

3. The retroactive TUE was accepted in accordance to WADA's rules.


So now we have USADA and WADA telling you that you are wrong, but somehow you can't understand it.

And you still won't answer why he had to mask and receive a TUE if USADA was in his pocket. Let me give you a hint. You won't answer because you can't. You tried before but failed miserably, and then you dropped it because you had nowhere to go.

There's nothing to interpret. The rule is clear: no retroactive Tue for home visit IVs or such. Very explicit

I told you at least 2x. He could have been trying to pass the commission test, which has shockingly been more effective in catching drug cheats than Usada in pro boxing. Or could have been caught in the act, and I'm sure his Usada arrangement asks for some discretion.

[Cinci Champ]

i think the better thread would be what world class fighter hasnt used ped the last 10 years? hate to break it to u but they all have floyd manny ggg u name it they were or are prob on ped

[travestyny]

There's nothing to interpret. The rule is clear: no retroactive Tue for home visit IVs or such. Very explicit

I told you at least 2x. He could have been trying to pass the commission test, which has shockingly been more effective in catching drug cheats than Usada in pro boxing. Or could have been caught in the act, and I'm sure his Usada arrangement asks for some discretion.

You're right, the rule is clear. And it's clearly not what you say it is because you don't even understand the role that WADA takes in this. Everything is acceptable IF there is a TUE. And that TUE can be granted retroactively. It's in black and white in the ISTUE, but you don't want to admit that.


So wait??? What commission test???? Did he have to pass a commission test? This is your answer? When did he have to take a commission test? What were the result of these commission tests??? What date was this commission test taken on? I missed that whole thing since, you know, USADA was contracted for drug testing and not the commission. Hmm.

"Could have been caught in the act" is a scenario that even Hauser doesn't agree with. The DCO was with him from before the weigh-in until after, when the IV was taken, so how was he caught in the act?

Do you see now how you've failed?

[Dosumpthin]

Wada are not involved in pro boxing, dummy. Why is this so hard for you to process? Guess what, they don't work for free duh

Here's the rule, a$$wipe. No wiggle room there

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...-Infusions.pdf

All drugs and methods listed on WADA prohibited list require a prior Tue.
****** pact@rd.

So you're propaganda is old and outdated. Try a new angle.


Thats why I gave you a link to the ISTUE - which is the official legally binding WADA code - not a reference paragraph or guidelines found in a FAQ section -

I'm giving you rules written on the stone.

And section 4.3

RETROACTIVE TUES

4.3 An Athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her The****utic
Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method (i.e., a retroactive TUE) if:


a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was
necessary;

or

b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or
opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an
application for the TUE prior to Sample collection;

or

c. The applicable rules required the Athlete (see comment to Article 5.1) or
permitted the Athlete (see Code Article 4.4.5) to apply for a retroactive
TUE;

or

d. It is agreed, by WADA and by the Anti-Doping Organization to whom the
application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness
requires the grant of a retroactive TUE

[Sun_Tzu]

Of course he did, they all do. Id wager he used them right up until the end.

[ИATAS]

Doesn't help with the fact that drug testing agencies don't make results public knowledge, USADA leading the line with this Floyd Mayweathers favour PED buddies.
If there is a red flag being brought up you can sure as hell more than likely guarantee that this fighter is dirty, ffs USADA don't even do all the proper testing means.

That's making conclusions without sufficient evidence. I'm not ok with that.

Now if we want to have a discussion about how the testing system is broken, or how it can be improved and things like that then yes absolutely those are discussions worth having.

[HeroBando]

You're right, the rule is clear. And it's clearly not what you say it is because you don't even understand the role that WADA takes in this. Everything is acceptable IF there is a TUE. And that TUE can be granted retroactively. It's in black and white in the ISTUE, but you don't want to admit that.


So wait??? What commission test???? Did he have to pass a commission test? This is your answer? When did he have to take a commission test? What were the result of these commission tests??? What date was this commission test taken on? I missed that whole thing since, you know, USADA was contracted for drug testing and not the commission. Hmm.

"Could have been caught in the act" is a scenario that even Hauser doesn't agree with. The DCO was with him from before the weigh-in until after, when the IV was taken, so how was he caught in the act?

Do you see now how you've failed?

Maybe in Floyd's fake testing, when the testers are hired by the fighter they test. Certainly not in real OST lol. Just read the fcuking rule. For the 10th time, no retroactive Tue for home visit IVs. What don't you get?

You don't understand that Wada takes no role in this cause they're out of the loop entirely.

The commission doesn't get contracted to test, idiot, it's standard. They do it regardless of any private test arrangements. Damn you're dense

[HeroBando]

i think the better thread would be what world class fighter hasnt used ped the last 10 years? hate to break it to u but they all have floyd manny ggg u name it they were or are prob on ped

Totally but only one of them proclaimed himself boxings #1 PED crusader, and hired testers privately to deter his opponent while he's doping with impunity

[travestyny]

Maybe in Floyd's fake testing, when the testers are hired by the fighter they test. Certainly not in real OST lol. Just read the fcuking rule. For the 10th time, no retroactive Tue for home visit IVs. What don't you get?

You don't understand that Wada takes no role in this cause they're out of the loop entirely.

The commission doesn't get contracted to test, idiot, it's standard. They do it regardless of any private test arrangements. Damn you're dense

You still won't agree that WADA is involved even when USADA is an signatory to the WADA code. So who is dense?

Really? Can you show me where NSAC gave drug tests to Mayweather and Pacquaio? I'm waiting.

[HeroBando]

All drugs and methods listed on WADA prohibited list require a prior Tue.
****** pact@rd.

So you're propaganda is old and outdated. Try a new angle.


Thats why I gave you a link to the ISTUE - which is the official legally binding WADA code - not a reference paragraph or guidelines found in a FAQ section -

I'm giving you rules written on the stone.

And section 4.3

RETROACTIVE TUES

4.3 An Athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her The****utic
Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method (i.e., a retroactive TUE) if:


a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was
necessary;

or

b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or
opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an
application for the TUE prior to Sample collection;

or

c. The applicable rules required the Athlete (see comment to Article 5.1) or
permitted the Athlete (see Code Article 4.4.5) to apply for a retroactive
TUE;

or

d. It is agreed, by WADA and by the Anti-Doping Organization to whom the
application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness
requires the grant of a retroactive TUE

This is not propaganda, ****** POS, this is Usada policy specifically for IV TUEs

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/General-Information-on-IV-Infusions.pdf

All IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6 hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations, without an approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).

IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance