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  • #21
    Yeah denied by the MW's.....154 and 168 are around him not 147.

    Shame.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by TheMexHurricane View Post
      OK sure but he could've fought a supermiddleweight or at worse even a jr middle like Lara but he's fighting a dude 2 divisions smaller and it's worse than Canelo because Khan moved up 1 division( even tho he was originally 2 ddivisions lower). Lastly, take a look at GGG's record and you'll see that he's much worse than Canelo in that more than 50% of his opponents were smaller dudes who fought as mature males at jr middle, welter or even jr welter. SMH....................
      No point in bringing Canelo, he started this recent duck season with his famous forfeit. It's not like Ggg was trying to avoid his mando and targeted a welter, much less glass chinned one. He got a huge offer from the other guys promoter when everyone else ducked out, with 2 months to fight date

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      • #23
        Originally posted by TheMexHurricane View Post
        OK sure but he could've fought a supermiddleweight or at worse even a jr middle like Lara but he's fighting a dude 2 divisions smaller and it's worse than Canelo because Khan moved up 1 division( even tho he was originally 2 ddivisions lower). Lastly, take a look at GGG's record and you'll see that he's much worse than Canelo in that more than 50% of his opponents were smaller dudes who fought as mature males at jr middle, welter or even jr welter. SMH....................
        Like who?? The only SMW that called GGG was G.Ramirez and he just injured his hand and won't be back til the end of the year, so he's out.
        Degale / B. Jack are with the PBC and are headed for a possible unification match this year. Which other SMWs are available for a high profile fight in Sept??

        As for Lara, he's an even bigger fraud than Eubank. He's been calling out GGG for over 2 years on social media but has done absolutely nothing to actually make the fight. He has not once instructed his team nor advisor Al Haymon to contact GGG and K2 about a possible offer or even to begin negotiations for a fight. Nothing, apart from his useless rants on Twitter.

        Even the most simple minded boxing fan knows that negotiations have to occur between the two boxers teams and management for a fight to happen.

        The real question is this. If Lara so desperate to fight GGG, calling him out nonstop on Twitter for 2 years....why the **** hasn't he nor his team tried making the fight with K2? Why is there zero reports in the media of his management contacting K2 about a possible fight???

        Easy- He never wanted to fight GGG. Just using his name to gain attention to himself. Pathetic. If a ballsy WW like Brook can tell his promoter to make the fight and get it made, Why the hell hasn't Lara done that??? SMH!

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        • #24
          Add 168 to that also since Andre "The Cow" Ward ran for his life to get away from GGG

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          • #25
            Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
            Radio is his first name. Rahim is not his real last name.
            Perfect...

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
              The best at 160 don't want to fight him, why do you think the best at 154 do? Canelo is down there now, don't want it. Charlo is hurting to stay at 154, can barely make weight, so the only reason he won't go up to 160 is he doesn't want to fight GGG or Jacobs. He's even dragging his feet with JRoc at 154, so what does that say about his interest in fighting GGG at 160?

              Andrade said he wanted to clean out 154 before moving up, even though he could become a superstar instantly by beating GGG, and get 3 belts in one fight. And yet Andrade would rather stay at 154 for the next 3-4 years since that's how long it takes to get 4 title fights these days in boxing.

              People don't realize fighting GGG is such a great opportunity, and it's a wide open opportunity since no one wants to do it. The problem is no one actually thinks they can beat him so they're ducking him even though it's such a good opportunity.

              Literally the only guy out of 10-15 relevant names at 154 or 160 who is not ducking GGG, that you guys who want to complain about GGG can point to, is Lara, whose own manager's mouthpiece Lou Dibella says can't fight GGG because of "TV problems." So why is Lara saying he'll fight GGG when his own manager's mouthpiece, his own team, says he can't?

              That just proves he's doing the same thing as Eubank jr., using GGG's name to create fan interest because Lara has no fan base.

              As for Khurtszide, not sure if he's with Haymon or not, but if he is then the same "TV problems" apply. Either way, he is just making his name, probably getting paid big money to fight no names if he's with Haymon, so there's very little chance he's interested in setting back his budding career by losing to GGG before he even has the name recognition to make a big payday in that fight.

              So when you actually study the situation, out of let's say 12 top fighters at 154 or 160 who we'd like to see fight GGG, 11 of them say they don't want to fight him right now, and 1 guy pretends he does but his team says they won't do it because of "TV problems."

              But instead of criticizing the 11 fighters near 160 who are openly ducking GGG, or the 1 fighter whose teams says he won't go to HBO to fight GGG either even though GGG is the A-side, you criticize GGG for not fighting any of these 12 fighters who all either refuse to fight GGG right now personally, or whose teams say they won't fight GGG right now.

              You are literally criticizing GGG for being ducked by 12 fighters or teams of the fighters. Instead of criticizing the 11 duckers, and the 1 ducking team, you criticize the guy being ducked by all 12 fricken fighters or teams! That's crazy yo. Yall must ****ing see that. Yall can question GGG's resume but yall must ****ing see he wants to fight the top guys at 154 and 160, even the big money guys like Chavez jr and Froch in the UK at 168, and that it's the top guys at 154 and 160 who don't want to fight him.


              And I think yall get that for the most part. But deep inside yall still don't like GGG, so yall is always looking for some way to criticize him. So even though yall get that the 11 guys are ducking him, yall will fall for any false hope to say there's 1 guy that isn't. So when Lara came out and talked that big stuff, yall was so eager to use that, without ever thinking about whether it was for real. Now Lou Dibella confirms what everyone already knew, it was just talk, he's locked into a plan with Showtime. Yall know how it works, Al wants to keep that belt in house, and if Lara loses, he wants to cash in on it with another one of his fighters. Lara getting KO'd early by GGG does nothing for Haymon. 154 is super hot for Haymon right now and he wants to keep all those guys as part of a tournament spanning over the next 8 years when Charlo will finally agree to fight Jroc. The Lara-GGG angle is all talk, so why yall fall for that **** so easily? When 11 other guys are ducking him, and one dude says he'll fight him but there's major question marks, you should use common sense and say, if the other 11 are ducking him, and we're not sure about this guy either, then chances are he's probably ducking him too.

              In any case, his team says there would be TV problems, meaning Lara won't be allowed to go to HBO to fight GGG because they have their own plans for him. GGG was ducked by everyone else who was any good, period. Everyone. There are no excuses you can use, "oh what about that guy." Everyone else who was any good. Anyone above that Korobov/Lee level, were all ducking him, and even with them there were no guarantees. I'm more intrigued by the Brook fight than either of them.

              So man don't fall for this bull**** anymore. It's pretty obvious GGG is being ducked by all the top guys. If you actually want to see those fights anytime soon, criticize the guys doing the ducking, not GGG. Put the pressure on them, not on GGG who is already doing everything he can to get them to fight him. Criticizing someone when they're already doing everything they can won't improve anything. The guys who there is room for improvement with, the ones ducking him, are the ones it would pay dividends to criticize, because that criticism might motivate them to face tougher competition. GGG already wants all the top competition in his weight class so criticizing him for being ducked is unproductive, flat out. We can be smarter than this.
              A lot of the people who trash ggg on here are just trolling...and seeing all the effort you put into your long-winded post is going to be incredibly satisfying to them.

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              • #27
                I'm not privy to the whole negotiation process. I wonder how many expressions of interest (I would imagine it would begin this way, prior to formal drafting of contracts) Golovkin's team has received as opposed to how many they have sent out.

                With a champion possessing belts from three major sanctioning bodies, you would think there would be a line of boxers sending in their contracts for the opportunity. I mean, aren't challengers supposed to be eagerly pleading their case to be next (if they believe they are the best or stand a chance to win)? Those that do believe (or say as much through media), did they actually draft and deliver a formal offer or are they just saying it through the media? If they did send an offer, was it reasonable or feasible?

                Typing all that out bored me... I just want to see competitive, intriguing fights.

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                • #28
                  Freddie Roach with the truth right here.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                    He was joking
                    I believe he was too.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                      He was joking
                      Really?! Who would've guessed?!
                      HAhahaha

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