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Originally posted by BoxingFan85
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Would someone at 154 have taken the fight? I would have loved to have seen Lara offered the shot. It all sucks, I don't know what Saunders problem is or Jacobs for that matter. But they could have offered the fight to Lara or Andrade or the Charlo brothers. Unless they were deadset on the fight being in the UK. Anyway Brook is bloody good so let's see how he does.Comment
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People can't accept the truthComment
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The best at 160 don't want to fight him, why do you think the best at 154 do? Canelo is down there now, don't want it. Charlo is hurting to stay at 154, can barely make weight, so the only reason he won't go up to 160 is he doesn't want to fight GGG or Jacobs. He's even dragging his feet with JRoc at 154, so what does that say about his interest in fighting GGG at 160?Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
Andrade said he wanted to clean out 154 before moving up, even though he could become a superstar instantly by beating GGG, and get 3 belts in one fight. And yet Andrade would rather stay at 154 for the next 3-4 years since that's how long it takes to get 4 title fights these days in boxing.
People don't realize fighting GGG is such a great opportunity, and it's a wide open opportunity since no one wants to do it. The problem is no one actually thinks they can beat him so they're ducking him even though it's such a good opportunity.
Literally the only guy out of 10-15 relevant names at 154 or 160 who is not ducking GGG, that you guys who want to complain about GGG can point to, is Lara, whose own manager's mouthpiece Lou Dibella says can't fight GGG because of "TV problems." So why is Lara saying he'll fight GGG when his own manager's mouthpiece, his own team, says he can't?
That just proves he's doing the same thing as Eubank jr., using GGG's name to create fan interest because Lara has no fan base.
As for Khurtszide, not sure if he's with Haymon or not, but if he is then the same "TV problems" apply. Either way, he is just making his name, probably getting paid big money to fight no names if he's with Haymon, so there's very little chance he's interested in setting back his budding career by losing to GGG before he even has the name recognition to make a big payday in that fight.
So when you actually study the situation, out of let's say 12 top fighters at 154 or 160 who we'd like to see fight GGG, 11 of them say they don't want to fight him right now, and 1 guy pretends he does but his team says they won't do it because of "TV problems."
But instead of criticizing the 11 fighters near 160 who are openly ducking GGG, or the 1 fighter whose teams says he won't go to HBO to fight GGG either even though GGG is the A-side, you criticize GGG for not fighting any of these 12 fighters who all either refuse to fight GGG right now personally, or whose teams say they won't fight GGG right now.
You are literally criticizing GGG for being ducked by 12 fighters or teams of the fighters. Instead of criticizing the 11 duckers, and the 1 ducking team, you criticize the guy being ducked by all 12 fricken fighters or teams! That's crazy yo. Yall must ****ing see that. Yall can question GGG's resume but yall must ****ing see he wants to fight the top guys at 154 and 160, even the big money guys like Chavez jr and Froch in the UK at 168, and that it's the top guys at 154 and 160 who don't want to fight him.
And I think yall get that for the most part. But deep inside yall still don't like GGG, so yall is always looking for some way to criticize him. So even though yall get that the 11 guys are ducking him, yall will fall for any false hope to say there's 1 guy that isn't. So when Lara came out and talked that big stuff, yall was so eager to use that, without ever thinking about whether it was for real. Now Lou Dibella confirms what everyone already knew, it was just talk, he's locked into a plan with Showtime. Yall know how it works, Al wants to keep that belt in house, and if Lara loses, he wants to cash in on it with another one of his fighters. Lara getting KO'd early by GGG does nothing for Haymon. 154 is super hot for Haymon right now and he wants to keep all those guys as part of a tournament spanning over the next 8 years when Charlo will finally agree to fight Jroc. The Lara-GGG angle is all talk, so why yall fall for that **** so easily? When 11 other guys are ducking him, and one dude says he'll fight him but there's major question marks, you should use common sense and say, if the other 11 are ducking him, and we're not sure about this guy either, then chances are he's probably ducking him too.
In any case, his team says there would be TV problems, meaning Lara won't be allowed to go to HBO to fight GGG because they have their own plans for him. GGG was ducked by everyone else who was any good, period. Everyone. There are no excuses you can use, "oh what about that guy." Everyone else who was any good. Anyone above that Korobov/Lee level, were all ducking him, and even with them there were no guarantees. I'm more intrigued by the Brook fight than either of them.
So man don't fall for this bull**** anymore. It's pretty obvious GGG is being ducked by all the top guys. If you actually want to see those fights anytime soon, criticize the guys doing the ducking, not GGG. Put the pressure on them, not on GGG who is already doing everything he can to get them to fight him. Criticizing someone when they're already doing everything they can won't improve anything. The guys who there is room for improvement with, the ones ducking him, are the ones it would pay dividends to criticize, because that criticism might motivate them to face tougher competition. GGG already wants all the top competition in his weight class so criticizing him for being ducked is unproductive, flat out. We can be smarter than this.Last edited by Boxing Logic; 07-13-2016, 11:42 PM.Comment
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Lara, but whatever, it doesn't matter at ths point. GGG is getting old and Brook will be the biggest, most notable name albeit from 2 weight classes downComment
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Then Golovkin should be able to pay the competition more money or take more risks like fighting in their hometown. This nobody will fight him is such bullshit.Comment
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I don't think hometown is a problem if it makes money. Eubank and Froch in the UK, Canelo in Vegas or Dallas, Chavez in San Antonio, don't matter.Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
You gotta remember Gggs career high is 2m so how can he pay nobodies like Saunders or Jacobs 4m? He needs to show he can sell 300k ppvs vs anyone if such purses are even possibleComment
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Those guys don't deserve 4mil. There are other boxers in the division. He could of at least fought another top 10 guy.Originally posted by HeroBando View PostComment
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He just got denied by the best 4 MWs. Not sure who you have in mind, like top 20 Tureano or Heiland? Those are probably makable in 2 months but no one wants that either. All **** fights but this one brings huge money and UK exposureOriginally posted by Mr.Fantastic View PostComment
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OK sure but he could've fought a supermiddleweight or at worse even a jr middle like Lara but he's fighting a dude 2 divisions smaller and it's worse than Canelo because Khan moved up 1 division( even tho he was originally 2 ddivisions lower). Lastly, take a look at GGG's record and you'll see that he's much worse than Canelo in that more than 50% of his opponents were smaller dudes who fought as mature males at jr middle, welter or even jr welter. SMH....................Comment
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