Comments Thread For: Roach: Don't Blame Golovkin, Nobody at 160 Will Fight Him!

[Rip Chudd]

I blame GGG, though it's not entirely his fault as fighters have ducked him. His promoter is garbage. Also, GGG signed on for the fight, he went from saying Brook was too small to signing to fighting him in the UK within a matter of weeks.

[Jsmooth9876]

Then Golovkin should be able to pay the competition more money or take more risks like fighting in their hometown. This nobody will fight him is such bullshit.

Yeah I'm pretty sure Eubanks was gonna get paid multi millions and the fight was in the UK. GGG has fought in NY so that wouldn't be an issue for a Jacobs fight. Does Lara have a hometown ? Lol and they are not gonna overpay for that guy who doesn't bring anything to the promotion in the way of fans or interest.

He said he'd go to the UK for Saunders and they offered him a. Career high payday of multi millions and he said no thanks... Canelo signed to fight Liam Smith a few days after his court case ended when they said they'd resume negotiations with K2 when it finished... So yeah, you can say he should do all the things you mentioned, and then you realize they actually have tried those things and it hasn't mattered.

[bboy80]

Yet GGG wouldnt dream of moving up lol.

[Kagami Taiga]

Nah, enough of that. It's time to start blaming Golovkin and his team.

[1g5a22]

According to Brook’s promoter Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Sport, Brook is weighing 178 pounds right now. He’s actually training down to get to 160 rather than training to gain weight to make the limit. Hearn says that Brook was at 185, but lost seven pounds to get to 178.

This isn’t surprising because Brook says it himself that he’s been draining himself for a long, long time to strip off weight to fight at the 147lb limit at welterweight all these years. Brook says he’s in between a 154lb and 160lb fighter in terms of his true weight class.

[Graz]

The best at 160 don't want to fight him, why do you think the best at 154 do? Canelo is down there now, don't want it. Charlo is hurting to stay at 154, can barely make weight, so the only reason he won't go up to 160 is he doesn't want to fight GGG or Jacobs. He's even dragging his feet with JRoc at 154, so what does that say about his interest in fighting GGG at 160?

Andrade said he wanted to clean out 154 before moving up, even though he could become a superstar instantly by beating GGG, and get 3 belts in one fight. And yet Andrade would rather stay at 154 for the next 3-4 years since that's how long it takes to get 4 title fights these days in boxing.

People don't realize fighting GGG is such a great opportunity, and it's a wide open opportunity since no one wants to do it. The problem is no one actually thinks they can beat him so they're ducking him even though it's such a good opportunity.

Literally the only guy out of 10-15 relevant names at 154 or 160 who is not ducking GGG, that you guys who want to complain about GGG can point to, is Lara, whose own manager's mouthpiece Lou Dibella says can't fight GGG because of "TV problems." So why is Lara saying he'll fight GGG when his own manager's mouthpiece, his own team, says he can't?

That just proves he's doing the same thing as Eubank jr., using GGG's name to create fan interest because Lara has no fan base.

As for Khurtszide, not sure if he's with Haymon or not, but if he is then the same "TV problems" apply. Either way, he is just making his name, probably getting paid big money to fight no names if he's with Haymon, so there's very little chance he's interested in setting back his budding career by losing to GGG before he even has the name recognition to make a big payday in that fight.

So when you actually study the situation, out of let's say 12 top fighters at 154 or 160 who we'd like to see fight GGG, 11 of them say they don't want to fight him right now, and 1 guy pretends he does but his team says they won't do it because of "TV problems."

But instead of criticizing the 11 fighters near 160 who are openly ducking GGG, or the 1 fighter whose teams says he won't go to HBO to fight GGG either even though GGG is the A-side, you criticize GGG for not fighting any of these 12 fighters who all either refuse to fight GGG right now personally, or whose teams say they won't fight GGG right now.

You are literally criticizing GGG for being ducked by 12 fighters or teams of the fighters. Instead of criticizing the 11 duckers, and the 1 ducking team, you criticize the guy being ducked by all 12 fricken fighters or teams! That's crazy yo. Yall must ****ing see that. Yall can question GGG's resume but yall must ****ing see he wants to fight the top guys at 154 and 160, even the big money guys like Chavez jr and Froch in the UK at 168, and that it's the top guys at 154 and 160 who don't want to fight him.

And I think yall get that for the most part. But deep inside yall still don't like GGG, so yall is always looking for some way to criticize him. So even though yall get that the 11 guys are ducking him, yall will fall for any false hope to say there's 1 guy that isn't. So when Lara came out and talked that big stuff, yall was so eager to use that, without ever thinking about whether it was for real. Now Lou Dibella confirms what everyone already knew, it was just talk, he's locked into a plan with Showtime. Yall know how it works, Al wants to keep that belt in house, and if Lara loses, he wants to cash in on it with another one of his fighters. Lara getting KO'd early by GGG does nothing for Haymon. 154 is super hot for Haymon right now and he wants to keep all those guys as part of a tournament spanning over the next 8 years when Charlo will finally agree to fight Jroc. The Lara-GGG angle is all talk, so why yall fall for that **** so easily? When 11 other guys are ducking him, and one dude says he'll fight him but there's major question marks, you should use common sense and say, if the other 11 are ducking him, and we're not sure about this guy either, then chances are he's probably ducking him too.

In any case, his team says there would be TV problems, meaning Lara won't be allowed to go to HBO to fight GGG because they have their own plans for him. GGG was ducked by everyone else who was any good, period. Everyone. There are no excuses you can use, "oh what about that guy." Everyone else who was any good. Anyone above that Korobov/Lee level, were all ducking him, and even with them there were no guarantees. I'm more intrigued by the Brook fight than either of them.

So man don't fall for this bull**** anymore. It's pretty obvious GGG is being ducked by all the top guys. If you actually want to see those fights anytime soon, criticize the guys doing the ducking, not GGG. Put the pressure on them, not on GGG who is already doing everything he can to get them to fight him. Criticizing someone when they're already doing everything they can won't improve anything. The guys who there is room for improvement with, the ones ducking him, are the ones it would pay dividends to criticize, because that criticism might motivate them to face tougher competition. GGG already wants all the top competition in his weight class so criticizing him for being ducked is unproductive, flat out. We can be smarter than this.

So true. GGG never said anything but wanting to fight anyone in his division. The problem continues to be that nobody wants him. He is feared in his division. It's so obvious. The guys that pretend to want the fight just want to get their names linked with him and gain some attention without actually having to fight him. At least he's been an active fighter. Look at Andre Ward. Great fighter but he's hardly ever in the ring. Blame the guys ducking GGG don't blame him.

[Kazakh Thunder]

Then Golovkin should be able to pay the competition more money or take more risks like fighting in their hometown. This nobody will fight him is such bullshit.

GGG only fought once in his hometown and that was 6 years ago.

HE already offered them their career high paydays around 3 million.

here is the list of some boxers who ducked him, u r welcome

1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol + he flew to Haymon to avoid GGG

3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster", GGG kept calling him out after his U.S. debut after every fight

4---Miguel cotto - ducked his mandatory(GGG) twice by fighting Geale and Canelo

5---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

6---Saul alvarez - Avoided his mando(GGG). Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.

7---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, + GGG was calling him for more than a year b4 he was retired so no excuses for "retiring".

8---Andrea Ward - The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked + he was fine when Dawson came down a whole division for him but wont move half a division for GGG, smh

9---Billy joe Saunders - Even before winning the WBO title from Lee his fear of Golovkin was as biright as day this is just one of many interviews(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJuwAz-ekoQ), then after winning it he priced himslef out at 6 mil$. Then turned down $3.2mill offer from k-2(its 2.2 gbp so I converted)

10---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG

[mlac]

Not Golovkin's fault, but he could have picked someone from 154 like Lara or Khurtszide from 160

what lara who wont even ATTEMPT to try and unify his own division after 2 years?
LMAO

[therealpugilist]

beating a dead horse times ten....yea im so gullible that i believe all the men who fight for a living near his size are afraid of him...yea friggin right...

[therealpugilist]

Not Golovkin's fault, but he could have picked someone from 154 like Lara or Khurtszide from 160

EXACTLY....They expect us to believe a welterweight is the only professional boxer who will fight this guy


nice hype train but there are people with working brains