Why did Golovkin take the Brook fight?

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  • soul_survivor
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    #11
    GGG is going to fight for millions on a PPV which will likely get a massive response in the UK, expose himself to a whole new audience at one of europes premier arenas against a guy who will actually fight him. What's he supposed to do when just about every fighter in or around his division has turned him down?

    Plus, top welter v top middle used to be a staple of boxing and has defined many a middleweights career so why not this?

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      #12
      Out of all the names you mentioned, Andy Lee has not shown any interest in a Golovkin fight, and since he's coming off a loss, he probably shouldn't. And Quillin has publicly stated he wont fight unless it's for 'May-Pac' money. Plus he's reportedly moving to SMW after getting fat.

      So basically, you'd prefer for him to fight the 38 year old midget at MW or some other guy nobody's ever heard of.

      He wont get credit for any of those fights, so he might as well fight Brook. This was not his first choice, or even 5th choice... but with the fight already negotiated, and seeking to make a name for himself.. I can see why he took the fight.

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        #13
        Originally posted by j0zef
        Out of all the names you mentioned, Andy Lee has not shown any interest in a Golovkin fight, and since he's coming off a loss, he probably shouldn't. And Quillin has publicly stated he wont fight unless it's for 'May-Pac' money. Plus he's reportedly moving to SMW after getting fat.

        So basically, you'd prefer for him to fight the 38 year old midget at MW or some other guy nobody's ever heard of.

        He wont get credit for any of those fights, so he might as well fight Brook. This was not his first choice, or even 5th choice... but with the fight already negotiated, and seeking to make a name for himself.. I can see why he took the fight.
        The point is those are at least guys his own size. Andy Lee will fight anyone and that is a fight I'd really like to see - some people say Golovkin is troubled by southpaws and taller opposition so Andy would be a great test. It's a fight I really want to see and I'm sure many others would too. He will get credit for beating Irish, certainly a lot more than pummeling Kell Brook.

        The others admittedly are plan X,Y and Z but at least they are in his division, not two below.

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          #14
          Wow, great fight! Brook vs GGG. Gonna be very intruiging!

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            #15
            Originally posted by Shrap
            The point is those are at least guys his own size. Andy Lee will fight anyone and that is a fight I'd really like to see - some people say Golovkin is troubled by southpaws and taller opposition so Andy would be a great test. It's a fight I really want to see and I'm sure many others would too. He will get credit for beating Irish, certainly a lot more than pummeling Kell Brook.

            The others admittedly are plan X,Y and Z but at least they are in his division, not two below.
            Don't fool yourself.

            There's no way on earth GGG gets ANY credit for being Andy Lee. You know it and i know it. I really like Andy Lee but if GGG knocked him out they will just say he was coming off a loss, Saunders dropped him and he's been KO'd twice before. That's the truth. Just like he got no real credit for beating Murray, Geale, Lemieux etc. He's at the stage now where folk will always dismiss his wins, even if they would be very good wins for anybody else. Like they did with Floyd.

            He won't get any credit for beating Brook either and he shouldn't, but at least he'll get paid much more. So what's the point in fighting Andy Lee for less money when nobody is going to give him respect for it anyway.

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              #16
              Little G took the fight because he is afraid of taking any risk. He could probably beat Lara, but he is afraid. Lara and and Andrade have been calling him out, but Little G is afraid of the risk. Ward called him out, but Little G was afraid of the risk. Eubanks, Billy Joe, and Jacobs are calling him out, but Little G is afraid of the risk. Gilberto Ramirez has been calling him out.

              So when you are afraid of risk, you start making excuses, and go cherry-picking.

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                #17
                Originally posted by deathofaclown
                Don't fool yourself.

                There's no way on earth GGG gets ANY credit for being Andy Lee. You know it and i know it. I really like Andy Lee but if GGG knocked him out they will just say he was coming off a loss, Saunders dropped him and he's been KO'd twice before. That's the truth. Just like he got no real credit for beating Murray, Geale, Lemieux etc. He's at the stage now where folk will always dismiss his wins, even if they would be very good wins for anybody else. Like they did with Floyd.

                He won't get any credit for beating Brook either and he shouldn't, but at least he'll get paid much more. So what's the point in fighting Andy Lee for less money when nobody is going to give him respect for it anyway.
                Because it's the respectful thing to do as the MW champ, especially after the Canelo/Khan debacle and Golovkin's thoughts on it. He will get credit for beating Lee, nothing earth shattering, but people will at least acknowledge that he is sticking with the top fighters in his division and taking on someone who has a name and a couple of real advantages over him.

                He is going to be shamed endlessly for the Brook fight, exactly like Canelo was for the Khan fight. It's the exact same situation.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Shrap

                  He is going to be shamed endlessly for the Brook fight, exactly like Canelo was for the Khan fight. It's the exact same situation.
                  I would't say it's exactly the same. Brook is a huge Welterweight who struggled to make 147 for years, probably more of a natural 154 fighter. Khan is a guy who couldn't even take shots at lightweight or light welterweight.

                  But yeah, i'm a big GGG fan but i won't give him much credit for this win really. I understand why he took the fight though, from a business perspective.

                  Plus, i think if he's willing to fight a welterweight and thinks it's fair game, then GGG should have no excuses about size and being on the other side of it if he's asked to move up two divisions to fight the likes of Ward or Kovalev. I think that's fair enough.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Shrap
                    The point is those are at least guys his own size. Andy Lee will fight anyone and that is a fight I'd really like to see - some people say Golovkin is troubled by southpaws and taller opposition so Andy would be a great test. It's a fight I really want to see and I'm sure many others would too. He will get credit for beating Irish, certainly a lot more than pummeling Kell Brook.

                    The others admittedly are plan X,Y and Z but at least they are in his division, not two below.
                    As I said, neither Andy Lee nor Quillin are interested since they're coming off losses.

                    Pretty much everyone left him hanging... again (BJS/jacobs/Canelo ducking, DeGale has match w Jack, Ramirez injured, Eubank being a pain in the ass).
                    He's got no options. So it was either fight a well known, highly ranked WW or some unknown 15th ranked MW. You can easily see why he chose to goto England and build his image there instead of fighting the old midget or Heiland.

                    None of these guys do much for his resume, but Brook does the most in name building/recognition.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by j0zef
                      As I said, neither Andy Lee nor Quillin are interested since they're coming off losses.

                      Pretty much everyone left him hanging... again (BJS/jacobs/Canelo ducking, DeGale has match w Jack, Ramirez injured, Eubank being a pain in the ass).
                      He's got no options. So it was either fight a well known, highly ranked WW or some unknown 15th ranked MW. You can easily see why he chose to goto England and build his image there instead of fighting the old midget or Heiland.

                      None of these guys do much for his resume, but Brook does the most in name building/recognition.
                      Brook isn't going to build GGG's name. That's the whole point of all this disappointment and outrage - Brook taints Golovkin's name and reputation exactly like Khan did to Canelo.

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