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  • 1g5a22
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    #71
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Hopkins best two wins doesn't include Oscar. And Duran & Hearns won titles above 147 (as did Tito).
    Hopkins best win was a career WW! Yes or no?

    Do you have a crystal ball? You are assuming Brook will not win titles above 147. You have no cause to think that. He may well win a LMW or MW title yet.

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      #72
      Originally posted by 1g5a22
      Hopkins best win was a career WW! Yes or no?

      Do you have a crystal ball? You are assuming Brook will not win titles above 147. You have no cause to think that. He may well win a LMW or MW title yet.
      You can't simplify it to just that. Trinidad had a title at 160 when Hopkins fought him. He had also unified at 154. He was also considered the #1 or #2 fighter in the world and was a heavy favorite to beat Hopkins. Brook is none of those things. In short, to compare the situation because both are "career welters" is a desperate defense tactic or you just don't know boxing. Choose one.

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        #73
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        You can't simplify it to just that. Trinidad had a title at 160 when Hopkins fought him. He had also unified at 154. He was also considered the #1 or #2 fighter in the world and was a heavy favorite to beat Hopkins. Brook is none of those things. In short, to compare the situation because both are "career welters" is a desperate defense tactic or you just don't know boxing. Choose one.
        Hopkins best win was a career WW! Yes or no?

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          #74
          Originally posted by 1g5a22
          Hopkins best win was a career WW! Yes or no?
          **** outta here with yes or no. Dude, you don't own me. And I don't think in black & white like a child so if you can't reason other than throw little fits then go take your b*tching elsewhere.

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            #75
            Originally posted by New England
            diminishing the fact that he was either grossly dehydrated to the point of needing an IV [medical data supports drinking water and electrolytes being a more effective means of hydration than an IV when athletes are even moderately dehydrated,] and then rehydrating with those IVS for an advantage,

            or using the IV for illegal PEDS.


            what's the purpose of not disclosing his weight?
            Originally posted by New England
            why was manny 138 lbs against hatton, when floyd couldn't get lower than 146 against marquez 4 months later? cost floyd half a million dollars during a period when he was in horrible IRS trouble.


            you migght not be objective enough to answer, but the reason is that manny is a smaller fighter to the tune of 1-2 weight classes in their later careers, and as many as 2-3 wieght classes earlier in their careers.
            Not going to get into the IV thing other than to say the IV would do nothing to mask PED's for the next day urine/blood test. He was drug tested 19 times.

            You mentioned that they aren't the same size. All I'm mentioning is that Mayweather reported that Manny outweighed him for the fight. He mentioned both of their fight night weights.

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              #76
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              **** outta here with yes or no. Dude, you don't own me. And I don't think in black & white like a child so if you can't reason other than throw little fits then go take your b*tching elsewhere.
              WOW! You just had a meltdown & refused to answer..

              Hopkins best win was a career WW! Yes or no?

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                #77
                Originally posted by 1g5a22
                WOW! You just had a meltdown & refused to answer..

                Hopkins best win was a career WW! Yes or no?
                ****outtahere. Go throw your hissy fit elsewhere.

                B-b-b-ut...Hopkins fought a welter too! No, he fought the WBA middleweight champ, alt.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  ****outtahere. Go throw your hissy fit elsewhere.

                  B-b-b-ut...Hopkins fought a welter too! No, he fought the WBA middleweight champ, alt.

                  Hopkins best win was a career WW! Yes or no?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Son Of Fraud
                    Floyd ducked him so he is obviously that damn good, you know you're an excellent fighter when Floyd deems it necessary to wait 6 years to fight you or he straight out retires.
                    Not even Floyd would fight this guy lol Floyd entire legacy has been ruined
                    Wow ! So add Brook to the Long list of Boogie Men Floyd Ducked . Wait I'll beat u guys to it ... Floyd Ducked Spence !!! He saw him as a threat and decided to retire Undefeated rather than risk his 0 . Ridiculous

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      Not going to get into the IV thing other than to say the IV would do nothing to mask PED's for the next day urine/blood test. He was drug tested 19 times.

                      You mentioned that they aren't the same size. All I'm mentioning is that Mayweather reported that Manny outweighed him for the fight. He mentioned both of their fight night weights.



                      show me verifying medical data, because this is flat out wrong.




                      did pacquaio grow between the algieiri fight and the floyd fight?

                      becayse he was 143 lbs against algieri, six months before the floyd fight.



                      not sure why you guys can't just admit that floyd is bigger than manny. manny was a 112 lber ffs . during most of their careers they were several weight classes apart.

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