Real champs should look UP for a challenge and NOT DOWN

[Weltschmerz]

Fighters who want to be known as greats look to fight other greats!
In this era GGG is the Middleweight Champ who knocks opponents out!
He is the "monster" of this era right now and the Welter Champ thinks he can beat the monster! Give the guy credit for his challenging and give GGG credit for accepting.
It's rare when the Welter & Middle Champs fight why not enjoy it.
Both undefeated and the GGG willing to go to England and be a traveling champion.

Get over the weight BS both of these men are just about the same size.
Some act like Duran weighed in at 135 against Leonard or Hearns or Hagler.
Grow up!

Ray

I have been hinting at these points, thanks for weighing in , Ray.

[1g5a22]

Man the OP's the worst poster on here! Firstly there is nothing new in a top MW fighting a top former WW.. Hopkins best wins were Oscar & Tito! Sergio Martinez was a career WW & Haglers best wins are Duran & Hearns (a Former LW & WW) Secondly the OP is assuming GGG isn't going to move up when he has finished at 160 (Jacobs, Saunders etc) Do you have access to the future or something? This is an intriguing matchup the #1 WW moving up to fight the #1 MW.. People only seem to think size is important when it suits there agenda! Chris Eubank Jr (or his team at least) were given a contract to fight Golovkin. They did not sign it in time. Kell Brook stepped in. Deal with it..

You lot have no problem discussing hypothetical matchups between FMJ & GGG so what's the issue?!

Good opponent.

[Jubei]

Why did Floyd fight Marquez then?

Why did Marvin Hagler fight Leonard, Hearns and Duran then and gave us three of the best historic fights?

Who at 168 would be ready to fight GGG in September?

DeGale and Badou Jack = Have a unification at the end of the year.

Gilberto Ramirez = Hand Injury, out for 5 months

Ward busy with Brand
Kovalev fights Chilemba and then they fight each other.

Focus your hatred on the guys ducking GGG, not the other way around.

List me any other option that GGG could have fought in September.

Brook is a huge WW, the fight has a 10lb rehydration limit, so maximum fight night weight is 170.

Canelo was 175+ against Khan, who is a glass chinned WW without a belt who got knocked out by lightweights, Brook is undefeated and #1 at 147, same as Ray Leonard was when he moved up.

[Jubei]

what did any of the c class fighters GGG fought do after they fought him?

canelo went on to become the lineal 160 champ

Larry you crack me up, are you serious?

[IMDAZED]

Man the OP's the worst poster on here! Firstly there is nothing new in a top MW fighting a top former WW.. Hopkins best wins were Oscar & Tito! Sergio Martinez was a career WW & Haglers best wins are Duran & Hearns (a Former LW & WW) Secondly the OP is assuming GGG isn't going to move up when he has finished at 160 (Jacobs, Saunders etc) Do you have access to the future or something? This is an intriguing matchup the #1 WW moving up to fight the #1 MW.. People only seem to think size is important when it suits there agenda! Chris Eubank Jr (or his team at least) were given a contract to fight Golovkin. They did not sign it in time. Kell Brook stepped in. Deal with it..

You lot have no problem discussing hypothetical matchups between FMJ & GGG so what's the issue?!

Good opponent.

Hopkins best two wins doesn't include Oscar. And Duran & Hearns won titles above 147 (as did Tito).

[New England]

How did he look down to fight Manny?? please explain how you make sense??

Floyd moved up 4 times and was lineal in 4 of the 5 divisions he fought in...

manny pacquiao was never a welterweight, especially when he was at is best best around 2009. weighed 138 for hatton, ffs. weigned 142 against de la hoya. 144 against margarito. 143 against marquez. 143 vs algieri.


he's not a welterweight, man.

floyd was allegedly seriously dehydrated to make 147 to fight manny. so he is a welterweight.


so he was fighting a smaller guy. can't see why you can't understnad that. manny fought at WW for the money, not becuse he couldn't fight at 140 lbs. he was 138 lbs against hatton ffs, which was at the peak of the floyd - manny feud. when floyd was in horrid IRS debt he missed weight against marquez, and it cost him well over half a million bucks. hatton - pacquiao and marquez - mayweather were only around 4 months apart.


these guys are not the same size. get that through your head, larrbear!

[travestyny]

manny pacquiao was never a welterweight, especially when he was at is best best around 2009. weighed 138 for hatton, ffs. weigned 142 against de la hoya. 144 against margarito. 143 against marquez. 143 vs algieri.


he's not a welterweight, man.

floyd was allegedly seriously dehydrated to make 147 to fight manny. so he is a welterweight.


so he was fighting a smaller guy. can't see why you can't understnad that. manny fought at WW for the money, not becuse he couldn't fight at 140 lbs. he was 138 lbs against hatton ffs, which was at the peak of the floyd - manny feud. when floyd was in horrid IRS debt he missed weight against marquez, and it cost him well over half a million bucks. hatton - pacquiao and marquez - mayweather were only around 4 months apart.


these guys are not the same size. get that through your head, larrbear!

According to Floyd, Manny outweighed him on the night of their fight. Not sure what would be the purpose of him lying about it.

[New England]

According to Floyd, Manny outweighed him on the night of their fight. Not sure what would be the purpose of him lying about it.

diminishing the fact that he was either grossly dehydrated to the point of needing an IV [medical data supports drinking water and electrolytes being a more effective means of hydration than an IV when athletes are even moderately dehydrated,] and then rehydrating with those IVS for an advantage,

or using the IV for illegal PEDS.


what's the purpose of not disclosing his weight?

[New England]

According to Floyd, Manny outweighed him on the night of their fight. Not sure what would be the purpose of him lying about it.

why was manny 138 lbs against hatton, when floyd couldn't get lower than 146 against marquez 4 months later? cost floyd half a million dollars during a period when he was in horrible IRS trouble.


you migght not be objective enough to answer, but the reason is that manny is a smaller fighter to the tune of 1-2 weight classes in their later careers, and as many as 2-3 wieght classes earlier in their careers.

[RadChang]

I dont get how fans can support a fighter who NEVER LOOKS UP AND MAKES FIGHTS!!but always calls out SMALLER FIGHTERS!!!. and dont say Hagler as 168 was not around then and he would have had to go to 175. What happened to challenging yourself? This is the era of b1tchassness i see

In that case why aren't you giving Brook credit?