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  • Originally posted by PivotandRoll View Post
    Eubank would easily knock out the people GGG has knocked out...That is not some record btw.... Wilder was like what 28 KO's in a row? Shavers KO'd 27 in a row. Mugabi got 24. How many did Valero have? Should I keep going?

    Audley Harrison won a gold medal.....GGG didn't . Your arguments suck.

    You simply don't know boxing.
    yes i do know boxing, first of all they werent middleweights and there names arent benn or eubank. noone has destroyed world level fighters like GGG has. Yes GGG hasnt beaten a superstar but these are good solid fighters hes absoltuly destroying. ANd im not some GGG fan boy, appreciate he cant be held in same regard in middlewight as hopkins, roy jones, james toney yet but jesus, even if he retired now a lot of people would hold him in a higher regard than benn or eubank, well everyone outside of england.

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    • Originally posted by chris232 View Post
      dont be lazy and watch the fights lol, yeah going to cancel work tomorrow so i can sit through all of benns fights. Alright bum was an exaggeration but he wasnt some world beater was he, as i said a lot of these fighters from the past get made out to be amazing when they werent, laughable that im being made out to be the crazy one by you two clowns for thinking golovkin (unanimously considered either 1st,2nd ,3rd in world p4p) is better than benn and eubank, two solid but limited fighters who were nowhere near any P4P lists
      by who? Many fighters, expert, trainers and even posters on this site dont have him top 5 or top ten...reason being level of opposition.

      thats not unanimous

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      • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        by who? Many fighters, expert, trainers and even posters on this site dont have him top 5 or top ten...reason being level of opposition.

        thats not unanimous

        like who? floyd towelboys, blackpower crusaders, bitter, biased fighters and trainers? etc?


        hwo the f#Ck doesn't have gennady golovkin in his top 10 p4p?


        what, other than a collection of writers, provides the best p4p lists on the planet?

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        • Originally posted by New England View Post
          like who? floyd towelboys, blackpower crusaders, bitter, biased fighters and trainers? etc?


          hwo the f#Ck doesn't have gennady golovkin in his top 10 p4p?


          what, other than a collection of writers, provides the best p4p lists on the planet?
          best?

          thats up for debate when these same collection of writers gave freddie roach trainer of the year, several times when other trainers had better years

          accolades in boxing are more so popularity contests

          Everyone has an opinion. Look up the videos. Several pro trainers and fighters acknowledge his talent but dont consider him top p4p because his resume is thin...rightfully so




          GGG literally has the worst record of any so called top 3 p4p fighter of all time.

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          • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
            best?

            thats up for debate when these same collection of writers gave freddie roach trainer of the year, several times when other trainers had better years

            accolades in boxing are more so popularity contests

            Everyone has an opinion. Look up the videos. Several pro trainers and fighters acknowledge his talent but dont consider him top p4p because his resume is thin...rightfully so




            GGG literally has the worst record of any so called top 3 p4p fighter of all time.

            like who? are you just going to act like the burden of proof isnt' on you when you disagree with virtually every expert on boxing on the planet?


            who are these people?


            and who are 10 better fighters than gennady golovkin? this list is going to be pathetic, but let's see it!

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            • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
              best?

              thats up for debate when these same collection of writers gave freddie roach trainer of the year, several times when other trainers had better years

              accolades in boxing are more so popularity contests

              Everyone has an opinion. Look up the videos. Several pro trainers and fighters acknowledge his talent but dont consider him top p4p because his resume is thin...rightfully so




              GGG literally has the worst record of any so called top 3 p4p fighter of all time.
              I still don't understand how people rank him that high. In my top 10 pound for pound? Yes. He's far and away the best in his division and he does it with frightening ease. I'd put him in the 9-12 area. But top 3? You don't get extra points for saying "good boy."

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              • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                I still don't understand how people rank him that high. In my top 10 pound for pound? Yes. He's far and away the best in his division and he does it with frightening ease. I'd put him in the 9-12 area. But top 3? You don't get extra points for saying "good boy."
                I have him right outside top ten

                he is on the cusp....a win over a canelo, Degale, Jack type fighter with a title and elite in their division and then he should be top ten

                The guys I rate above him have taken more risks and fought better opposition yet have a comparable skill set

                in no order my top ten


                Chocolatito
                Canelo
                Danny Garcia(yes its controversial the guy had two close fights but his last 10 fights may be the toughest of anyone considered p4p)
                Juan Francisco Estrada
                Terrance Crawford
                Inoue
                RiGODeaux
                Ward
                Kovalev
                Shinsuke Yamanaka

                the guys on the cusp for me are Postol, GGG, Adonis Stevenson, Tim Bradley..they are 1 or 2 wins away from taking a spot.

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                • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  I have him right outside top ten

                  he is on the cusp....a win over a canelo, Degale, Jack type fighter with a title and elite in their division and then he should be top ten

                  The guys I rate above him have taken more risks and fought better opposition yet have a comparable skill set

                  in no order my top ten


                  Chocolatito
                  Canelo
                  Danny Garcia(yes its controversial the guy had two close fights but his last 10 fights may be the toughest of anyone considered p4p)
                  Juan Francisco Estrada
                  Terrance Crawford
                  Inoue
                  RiGODeaux
                  Ward
                  Kovalev
                  Shinsuke Yamanaka

                  the guys on the cusp for me are Postol, GGG, Adonis Stevenson, Tim Bradley..they are 1 or 2 wins away from taking a spot.
                  There's nothing controversial about Danny Garcia in the top 10. Especially if you put Golovkin in there.

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                  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    There's nothing controversial about Danny Garcia in the top 10. Especially if you put Golovkin in there.
                    Danny is underrated...It may be controversial to posters on this site....he arguably has the best resume of anyone considered p4p

                    all people talk about is the Peterson and Herrera fights...this guy has fought stiff comp for years. Guys like Khan, Peterson, Matthyssee, herrera, Holt, , back to back

                    He always finds a way to win. I reminds me of a welterweight holyfield. He fights to the level of his opposition at times. Is good at everything, great at nothing with a great left hook counter and good chin/heart.

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                    • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      by who? Many fighters, expert, trainers and even posters on this site dont have him top 5 or top ten...reason being level of opposition.

                      thats not unanimous
                      ring have him 3rd, IBtimes 1st, espn 2nd, they were the first ones that popped up when i googled. Sky sports refer to him as best p4p fighter in the world although they dont have a formal list i dont think. Lol i would imagine a lot of the ggg haters on here wouldnt have them in there top 100 let alone 10

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