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  • Lester Tutor
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    #51
    Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
    Under WADA code Povetkin is clean. That means under VADA he's clean too.
    Right.. that's why Margaret Goodman hasn't made any statements about that 4th sample and the WBC... hmmmm

    If it were all easy, the supposed "70 nanograms" wouldn't have been a big deal and Goodman would've defended the logic and the rules.

    where is she on this?

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    • Chrismart
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      #52
      Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
      Under WADA code Povetkin is clean. That means under VADA he's clean too.
      Yep, that's what i thought.
      Doesn't VADA use WADA's standards ?

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #53
        Originally posted by Sugarhitman
        False...That WADA statement was not specific to Povetkin's case...Whats going to nail Povetkin is the fact that he failed in between testing after passing 3 tests....He will need to prove that the drug goes from undetected to detected...WADA nor VADA has said it behaves in this way.
        They haven't said it doesn't. The burden of proof is on WADA, innocent until proven guilty and all that.

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          #54
          THIS IS THE DOCUMENT: https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws....ium_notice.pdf

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          • _Maxi
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            #55
            Originally posted by Chrismart
            Yep, that's what i thought.
            Doesn't VADA use WADA's standards ?
            Eh... yes. And some google doesn't hurt you know?

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #56
              Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
              Right.. that's why Margaret Goodman hasn't made any statements about that 4th sample and the WBC... hmmmm

              If it were all easy, the supposed "70 nanograms" wouldn't have been a big deal and Goodman would've defended the logic and the rules.

              where is she on this?
              It's only been announced by WADA today. VADA follows WADA rules, Povetkin will be cleared by VADA.

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              • JAB5239
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                #57
                Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
                Did VADA and WBC call him a cheat? I don't believe they did, they said he failed a test, there's a difference.
                If you fail a test you have cheated. Can blame a guy for resonding to what he was told by these groups who control the fight. There is now basis for a defamation lawsuit. Now If Wilder continues to go on and call Povetkin a steroid cheat after being cleared, that could and justifiably lead to a law suit. Personally I just want to see the fight.

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                • Combat Talk Radio
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                  #58
                  Wait a minute. Where's all the haters talking about Povetkin being dirty and should be banned for life?

                  WADA is the higher authority. Are you going to also say they're crooked or will you finally come back down to earth and accept that VADA maybe - JUST MAYBE - has been failing people improperly and prematurely?

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                  • Sugarhitman
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
                    They haven't said it doesn't. The burden of proof is on WADA, innocent until proven guilty and all that.
                    WADA codes specifically says the burden of proof is on the athlete....The temporary limit is for those who failed their initial tests, not those who fail in between testing, or WADA will be forced to accept that theyre basically tolerating microdosing...and they wont.


                    Povetkin's case is not how much was in his system, his case is how did Meldonium show up after passing 3 tests.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Sugarhitman
                      WADA codes specifically says the burden of proof is on the athlete....The temporary limit is for those who failed their initial tests, not those who fail in between testing, or WADA will be forced to accept that theyre basically tolerating microdosing...and they wont.


                      Povetkin's case is not how much was in his system, his case is how did Meldonium show up after passing 3 tests.
                      You don't know that's the case, has VADA/WADA said that is the case? Or is that your case?

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