Who is better: Paul Smith/Barrera or David Lemieux/Murray/Macklin/Geale

[soul_survivor]

Beating the best fighters in your division that aren't afraid to lose>>>>dragging up smaller and old fighter up to catchweights in the lightheavyweight division. Btw, your issue should be with espn. They have GGG at #2 like they have Floyd as the best fighter of this era.

Great post.

Yeah mate, i felt for him in that one. He was robbed.

Na, Martinez won that one. Even Murray knew and he commented on how he is unable to finish fights strong, the same problem happened in the Sturm fight.

[soul_survivor]

so therealpugilist and RedFoXx, why havent you voted?

[soul_survivor]

p4p lists [who is better right tnow]

and resumes [who has accomplished more over the course of his career]

are different things completely. for that reason golovkin is the better p4p ranked fighter, while ward's got the better resume.


james toney is still trying to fight. shane mosley, too. both have a better resume than both guys. are they better ranked p4p fighters right now than gennady golovkin?

omg new pus...i mean england, i did not ever expect to agree with you

[Kagami Taiga]

Murray should've beaten Martinez.

Probably. But I think we can all agree Martinez was long gone by that time.

[elgu]

It's obvious who has the best opponents. Ward fans think his man can go 4 years fighting bums because he won the super six. News flash, after the super six the man has accomplished nothing. Why didn't he fight Bute?Why didn't he fight GGG in 2013? Why did he duck the pimp? Why did he insist on three bums before Kovalev?

Those are all good questions that Ward fans ignore. He won the super six doe. He had injuries doe. He a bizznezz man doe.

Pathetic.

In the mean while GGG has tried to fight Ward, Froch, Cotto , Canelo, Martinez, and Jacobs and they all ducked. Ward has no passion or interest in the sport. His a bizznezz man that wants bums for big bucks.

[elgu]

so therealpugilist and RedFoXx, why havent you voted?

Your wasting your time. They idolize the bums for big bucks mentality. Ward is a business man with no interest in boxing or fighting the best.

[soul_survivor]

It's obvious who has the best opponents. Ward fans think his man can go 4 years fighting bums because he won the super six. News flash, after the super six the man has accomplished nothing. Why didn't he fight Bute?Why didn't he fight GGG in 2013? Why did he duck the pimp? Why did he insist on three bums before Kovalev?

Those are all good questions that Ward fans ignore. He won the super six doe. He had injuries doe. He a bizznezz man doe.

Pathetic.

In the mean while GGG has tried to fight Ward, Froch, Cotto , Canelo, Martinez, and Jacobs and they all ducked. Ward has no passion or interest in the sport. His a bizznezz man that wants bums for big bucks.

I disagree with the last paragraph lol but the rest is on point.

Mosley should still be p4p no. 1 at this rate then.

Btw, he ducked Bute cos he needed a holiday lol

[soul_survivor]

Sadly I had to bump this, so why havent you voted?
larryxxx... therealpugilist
Sugar Adam Ali

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Sadly I had to bump this, so why havent you voted?
larryxxx... therealpugilist
Sugar Adam Ali

Why do you keep stalking me,,, I wasn't even in your little debate with the other posters???? I didn't even know what your talking about with them.. And for the record, I agree that ggg has faced better competition lately than Ward.. That's a no-brainer... Wtf to you keep hounding me about a debate that I'm not even part of

[therealpugilist]

Sadly I had to bump this, so why havent you voted?
larryxxx... therealpugilist
Sugar Adam Ali

anyone with a brain knows that GGG has faced better opposition lately

Ward has only fought 3 times in the last couple years

GGG has been more active

now moving on......Ward has the better overall career, and resume...thats what matters and what they will be remembered for.

its been over 10 years and GGG still hasnt faced an elite fighter.....thats pathetic for a so called p4p, fighter