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  • Lester Tutor
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    #31
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    Doubtful if Jacobs can barely get more to tune into Showtime vs other top US Mw
    being doubtful is practical. In prize fighting you can upset and surprise with rating or seat turnout. Why would any American PPV fan root for Lemieux? Assuming Golovkin brought in 90% of the PPV buys it's safe to say Jacobs would too. Again, Jacobs has more stock noise than Lemieux. It safe to say that in any equation or scenario, for example, word of mouth about a fight and industry doing their job as usual, the factor of the fight is 3 times bigger than the Lemeiux bout. Especially in a 8.5 million populus of New York. PPV branding itself provides strategic hype. Any casual that watches boxing every once in a while and is American is more affected and likely to watch a Jacobs vs Lil'G bout than a Lil'G vs Lemieux bout.

    Guy X says to Guy Z, "yo you gonna watch GGG vs Jacobs? Jacobs from NY, gonna be a great bout!?"

    vs "yo you gonna watch GGG vs Lemieux...?"

    Fug outta here!
    Last edited by Lester Tutor; 06-30-2016, 01:00 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by PK3434
      Your threads are dumb and your hate for Golovkin is weird.
      your responses are dumb and your hate towards me is weird.

      I'm for either fight dumbass. lol But it's fun spooking Lil'G fanhood rationale. NSB Boxing Champions!

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      • gmc_rfc_06
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        #33
        Eubank is better than Jacobs, Eubank is infinitely more popular/known than Jacobs and Eubank is willing to do what Jacobs isn't; fight.

        The UK will have a sold out arena and big PPV numbers, Jacobs doesn't want to fight and certainly wouldn't be PPV.

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        • deathofaclown
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          #34
          People need to realise there's a lot of money in UK boxing now and it's gaining more and more momentum. Anthony Joshua sells a similar PPV's in UK as Canelo does in USA, maybe more, and the UK is 6x smaller than USA in terms of population. If the same ratio were buying fights in USA as the UK, Canelo would be doing 3m+ PPV numbers.

          A fight in the UK like Frampton v Quigg sold out a 21,000 seat arena + PPV, where as in the USA they can barely give free tickets away for title fights on PBC. Unless you're a really big name, you ain't doing those numbers in USA.

          Also, ticket prices are higher and venues are sold out, so more gate money. In the USA, like Canelo v Kirkland they were selling tickets at like $10 or less for some seats just to fill it. Good luck getting a ticket for anywhere close to that price in the UK.

          And the name Eubank is a household name in the UK, because of his dad of course but now everybody is aware of Jr. too. Jacobs is basically unknown outside of hardcore boxing fans, let's be real.

          Hearn said himself he now has fighters and promoters contacting him to ask about coming to the UK to fight, they know that's where they can earn big money now.
          Last edited by deathofaclown; 06-30-2016, 01:02 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by deathofaclown
            People need to realise there's a lot of money in UK boxing now and it's gaining more and more momentum. Anthony Joshua sells a similar PPV's in UK as Canelo does in USA, maybe more, and the UK is 6x smaller than USA in terms of population. If the same ratio were buying fights in USA as the UK, Canelo would be doing 3m+ PPV numbers.

            A fight in the UK like Frampton v Quigg sold out a 21,000 seat arena + PPV, where as in the USA they can barely give free tickets away for title fights on PBC. Unless you're a really big name, you ain't doing those numbers in USA.

            Also, ticket prices are higher and venues are sold out, so more gate money. In the USA, like Canelo v Kirkland they were selling tickets at like $10 or less for some seats just to fill it. Good luck getting a ticket for anywhere close to that price in the UK.

            And the name Eubank is a household name in the UK, because of his dad of course but now everybody is aware of Jr. too. Jacobs is basically unknown outside of hardcore boxing fans, let's be real.

            Hearn said himself he now has fighters and promoters contacting him to ask about coming to the UK to fight, they know that's where they can earn big money now.
            I agree with the UK being a better platform for fights now.

            However, our PPV's are £15 instead of the $70 in the US.

            Also, the ringside and 'good seats' in the US are more expensive for big fights. I think it's part of their problem, numbers would be better across the board if the prices were more sensible.

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              #36
              Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
              I agree with the UK being a better platform for fights now.

              However, our PPV's are £15 instead of the $70 in the US.

              Also, the ringside and 'good seats' in the US are more expensive for big fights. I think it's part of their problem, numbers would be better across the board if the prices were more sensible.
              Well yeah there is that. But the business model and prices in the UK allows for better numbers, it's growing and ultimately starting to attract big fights. Especially Hearn anyway, he now has the money and Sky behind him to get the likes of Golovkin over to the UK.

              Hearn right now can probably pay enough to entice anybody to the UK, apart from guys like Floyd, Manny or Canelo. But a guy like GGG who doesn't do huge numbers but still a good ticket seller and well known name, i think he has enough clout to get them to the UK unless they flat out don't want the fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Derranged
                No way GGG vs. Jacobs is on PPV. Golovkin's only PPV did 97K buys and Jacobs ratings tanked on free tv. Then you wonder why neither Jacobs nor GGG will get 4million for fighting each other...

                Second, Eubank getting 4 million was reported by the UK Daily Mail, which is not exactly a reliable source.
                Eubanks retweeted the article about an hour ago. Where there's smoke...
                Last edited by REMOVE SHARK 55; 06-30-2016, 01:21 PM.

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                • kafkod
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                  Why are you hyper? Eubank's family about represent. Besides, this fight should've been on American soil. Why and how did the UK win such a conceptual bid to host it?

                  Who's the better boxer, Jacobs or Eubank Jr.?
                  If Jacobs was offered $3/4 million to fight Golovkin, he would probably accept it. But it's not K2 who are paying Eubank that much, it's Matchroom and Sky Sports. So you would be better asking why Haymon and PBC didn't back Danny the way Hearn and Sky are backing Chris Jnr.

                  It's kind of irrelevant anyway though, because Jacobs isn't available now and Jnr is.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown
                    Well yeah there is that. But the business model and prices in the UK allows for better numbers, it's growing and ultimately starting to attract big fights. Especially Hearn anyway, he now has the money and Sky behind him to get the likes of Golovkin over to the UK.

                    Hearn right now can probably pay enough to entice anybody to the UK, apart from guys like Floyd, Manny or Canelo. But a guy like GGG who doesn't do huge numbers but still a good ticket seller and well known name, i think he has enough clout to get them to the UK unless they flat out don't want the fight.
                    It's certainly the better business model.

                    Charging affordable prices for PPV and seats is working wonders for Hearn, boxing in the UK is on fire at the moment.

                    It's struggling in the US, part of that was the ridiculous PPV prices and seat prices. a $30 PPV is going to sell far more than a $70 PPV, it's pretty clear why numbers are low.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      If Jacobs was offered $3/4 million to fight Golovkin, he would probably accept it. But it's not K2 who are paying Eubank that much, it's Matchroom and Sky Sports. So you would be better asking why Haymon and PBC didn't back Danny the way Hearn and Sky are backing Chris Jnr.

                      It's kind of irrelevant anyway though, because Jacobs isn't available now and Jnr is.


                      3 excellent points

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