Why isn't Bradley on the P4P list?

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  • BrometheusBob.
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    #11
    He was towards the bottom of The Ring's P4P list and was removed after the third Pacquiao fight. There is a good chance he'd be reintroduced into the list if he came back with a win over a solid opponent.

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    • Sadiqkingofko
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
      What has Brook and Thurman done greater than Bradley? They haven't done jack shit compared to what Bradley has done. Sure they both beat Porter and Thurman beat Chaves but that doesn't come close to some of the names I've listed.




      Marquez was coming off the biggest win of his career and Bradley shut him down. Lately he's beaten Vargas who's a top Welter. If Bradley was a MW, he would of fought GGG a long time ago. That's what fighters do.
      Overall Bradley is greater but right now there better he hasn't beat a notable fighter since Marquez in 2013 so he needs some fights to be #1 again he was number 2 behind Mayweather from June 12-Apr 14 and I'm one of the few people who saw Bradley beating Pacquaio in 2012 fair and square

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        #13
        Originally posted by _original_
        The Hopkins and Marquez comparisons don't really fit because those were controversial losses that many felt they won. This guy lost to the same guy 3-0 convincingly so it's hard to rank him high even with his very good resume. I think he's still p4p 10-15 but not top 5 by any means. Plus it's not probable he'll fight Thurman, Porter, Brook, Spence, Garcia, or Vasquez so it's hard to see him move up the ranks.
        I saw it 3-0 as well but there were a lot of people who thought Pacquiao truly lost on the first one. You've seen them on here too don't lie.

        Ok explain to me why those top 5 boxers deserve to be higher than Bradley? What did they achieve that's greater? I would ask for 10 but I don't think you'd reach that high.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
          Overall Bradley is greater but right now there better he hasn't beat a notable fighter since Marquez in 2013 so he needs some fights to be #1 again he was number 2 behind Mayweather from June 12-Apr 14 and I'm one of the few people who saw Bradley beating Pacquaio in 2012 fair and square
          He beat Jesse Vargas who's a top WW in 2015. Nice try.

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          • Mr.Fantastic
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            #15
            Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
            He was towards the bottom of The Ring's P4P list and was removed after the third Pacquiao fight. There is a good chance he'd be reintroduced into the list if he came back with a win over a solid opponent.
            If I remember correctly, even when Bradley beat Marquez, Marquez was still on the list. It wasn't till the long inactivity till they decided to drop him.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
              I saw it 3-0 as well but there were a lot of people who thought Pacquiao truly lost on the first one. You've seen them on here too don't lie.

              Ok explain to me why those top 5 boxers deserve to be higher than Bradley? What did they achieve that's greater? I would ask for 10 but I don't think you'd reach that high.

              C'mon bro, no sane person thought Bradley won that first fight.


              Top 5 I would say are Gonzalez, Kovalev, Ward, Rigo, and GGG. Resume is important but let's disregard it for a minute and pretend they all weigh the same; does Bradley beat any of those guys? You would tell me with a straight face that you would actually bet money on Bradley to beat any of those guys? This is a big P4P criteria right here.

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              • BrometheusBob.
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                #17
                Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                If I remember correctly, even when Bradley beat Marquez, Marquez was still on the list. It wasn't till the long inactivity till they decided to drop him.
                Depends where you are on the list, who you lose to, how you looked in the fight, how good the people who could replace you on the list are etc. I think there is a good case for Bradley to be on the list now too, I mean at worst he's in the top 15.

                TBRB still ranks Bradley in the top 10. http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/

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                  #18
                  Bradley is one of the most overrated boxers on the planet. His resume is pretty weak in all honesty, his best win (legit win) comes over Marquez, who was 40 years old and a smaller man. I believe the first Pacman fight was closer than a lot of people think... but he still lost it... and lost comfortably in the rematch. The rest of his resume is fairly weak... names like Holt, Witter, Provodnikov, Vargas etc... hardly set the world alight... these are all guys that never actually achieved much and were/are weak title holders.
                  Bradley would not be favourite against 3 or 4 names in his own division (Brook, Spence, Thurman)... so how could he be a top 10 P4P fighter?
                  To summarise, Bradley is, and always has been overrated and on inspection, really hasn't got a defining win on his resume.
                  Last edited by craigus1990; 06-28-2016, 02:43 AM.

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                  • Sadiqkingofko
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                    He beat Jesse Vargas who's a top WW in 2015. Nice try.
                    I agree but Vargas it was his first fight at 147 so it wasn't until he beat Saddam Ali to secure his top 10 spot

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                      I saw it 3-0 as well but there were a lot of people who thought Pacquiao truly lost on the first one. You've seen them on here too don't lie.

                      Ok explain to me why those top 5 boxers deserve to be higher than Bradley? What did they achieve that's greater? I would ask for 10 but I don't think you'd reach that high.
                      Define "a lot" because I'm quite sure over 95% of people thought Pacquaio won clearly.

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