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  • Mr.Fantastic
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    #1

    Why isn't Bradley on the P4P list?

    He has a better resume than most of the boxers on the P4P list. His only two defeats have been to Pacquiao.

    When Hopkins lost to Calzaghe, he wasn't removed. Neither did Marquez when he lost to Pacquiao.


    Marquez
    Peterson
    Pacquiao - I thought he lost but to some he won the first fight.
    Witter
    Vazquez
    Holt
    Alexander
    Holt
    Provodnikov
    Vargas
    Rios
    Chaves


    He deserves to be top 5 easy. Everybody else fighting tune ups while Bradley stays consistent with challenges.
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    When you almost die in the ring several times and its expected that you perform some type of acrobatic stunt during your fights including break dancing you can forget being in the P4P.

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      #3
      Originally posted by 1hourRun


      When you almost die in the ring several times and its expected that you perform some type of acrobatic stunt during your fights including break dancing you can forget being in the P4P.
      Who has a better resume than Bradley on the current Ring or your P4P list?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
        Who has a better resume than Bradley on the current Ring or your P4P list?
        You assume my list is based on resume ( wrong ). According to general consensus resume has something to do with it but skill is just as important -- Klitsckho has a great resume but we all know hes a dirty fighter and one dimensional...thats why he would not reach #1..for a long time.

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          #5
          Originally posted by 1hourRun
          You assume my list is based on resume ( wrong ). According to general consensus resume has something to do with it but skill is just as important -- Klitsckho has a great resume but we all know hes a dirty fighter and one dimensional...thats why he would not reach #1..for a long time.
          He has boxing skills too. He outboxed Marquez. According to the people that think he won vs Pacquiao in the first fight, he outboxed him too. Not just anybody does that. Bradley also beat another boxer in Vazquez.

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            He's a great fighter but right now he isn't maybe if he didn't have a draw with chaves he would be in the top 10 hes in the top 3 @ 147 tho imo
            Welterweight
            1. K. Brook 36-0(25) IBF
            2. K. Thurman 27-0(22) WBA (Regular)
            3. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13)
            4. D. Garcia 32-0(18) WBC
            5. S. Porter 26-2-1(16)
            6. J. Vargas 27-1(10) WBO
            7. A. Khan 31-4(19)
            8. E. Spence Jr. 20-0(17)
            9. L. Peterson 34-3-1(17)
            10. S. Vazquez 21-0(15)

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
              He has boxing skills too. He outboxed Marquez. According to the people that think he won vs Pacquiao in the first fight, he outboxed him too. Not just anybody does that. Bradley also beat another boxer in Vazquez.
              Yeah he was in the P4P list at the time decent win vs. Marquez ( older version it should be noted) he never beat Pacquiao imo -- but what has he done lately? I mean lately you got to be progressing in the sport : unifying moving up in weight beating the lineal champ in your division etc..I think thats whats going on right now. Bradley is just stale right now hes been stuck with Toprank missing out on the new crop of welters signed with Al Haymon and that punk Kell Brook ducked him so what can he do?...he was so desperate at one point that he said he wanted to fight GGG! crazy...but that my two cents.

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                You are getting things mixed up. Pound for pound isn't based on resume.It's based on how good for his size you think a fighter is right now, today. What a fighter did 2,3 or 4 years ago doesn't count.There are lots of very good fighters in 17 different weight classes. Most people think there are more than 10 fighters in the world right now who are better than Bradley for their size and I would agree. Bradley might make the top 15 or 20.

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                  The Hopkins and Marquez comparisons don't really fit because those were controversial losses that many felt they won. This guy lost to the same guy 3-0 convincingly so it's hard to rank him high even with his very good resume. I think he's still p4p 10-15 but not top 5 by any means. Plus it's not probable he'll fight Thurman, Porter, Brook, Spence, Garcia, or Vasquez so it's hard to see him move up the ranks.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
                    He's a great fighter but right now he isn't maybe if he didn't have a draw with chaves he would be in the top 10 hes in the top 3 @ 147 tho imo
                    Welterweight
                    1. K. Brook 36-0(25) IBF
                    2. K. Thurman 27-0(22) WBA (Regular)
                    3. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13)
                    4. D. Garcia 32-0(18) WBC
                    5. S. Porter 26-2-1(16)
                    6. J. Vargas 27-1(10) WBO
                    7. A. Khan 31-4(19)
                    8. E. Spence Jr. 20-0(17)
                    9. L. Peterson 34-3-1(17)
                    10. S. Vazquez 21-0(15)
                    What has Brook and Thurman done greater than Bradley? They haven't done jack shit compared to what Bradley has done. Sure they both beat Porter and Thurman beat Chaves but that doesn't come close to some of the names I've listed.


                    Originally posted by 1hourRun
                    Yeah he was in the P4P list at the time decent win vs. Marquez ( older version it should be noted) he never beat Pacquiao imo -- but what has he done lately? I mean lately you got to be progressing in the sport : unifying moving up in weight beating the lineal champ in your division etc..I think thats whats going on right now. Bradley is just stale right now hes been stuck with Toprank missing out on the new crop of welters signed with Al Haymon and that punk Kell Brook ducked him so what can he do?...he was so desperate at one point that he said he wanted to fight GGG! crazy...but that my two cents.
                    Marquez was coming off the biggest win of his career and Bradley shut him down. Lately he's beaten Vargas who's a top Welter. If Bradley was a MW, he would of fought GGG a long time ago. That's what fighters do.

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